Elements Mafia 63 - by skyironsword

[killsdazombies]

^^ seriously. I don't mind a w3 lynch, but let's not make our own evidence here.

(At w3's post)

[iancudorinmarian]

So, I'm grateful for the info Sub provided and all, but isn't that against the rules? His death post isn't supposed to have any useful info in it, right? :/

There's no rules about anything regarding death in sky's OP. Dead people can literally talk forever.

Pretty sure it's common sense that dead people can't talk.

[Espithel]

> Solaris complains when people exploit and meta-game the rules
> "There's no rules regarding death in Sky's OP."


If Ryli didn't exist, I'd be hounding you.

[UTAlan]

So, I'm grateful for the info Sub provided and all, but isn't that against the rules? His death post isn't supposed to have any useful info in it, right? :/

There's no rules about anything regarding death in sky's OP. Dead people can literally talk forever.

(Rules pertaining to nightkills, voting, and cheating follow traditional mafia rules.)

[RavingRabbid]

Smettetela di usare venti post per scrivere stronzate usateli bene che uno smonta dal computer 2 ore e si trova con 3 pagine da leggere

[worldwideweb3]

Smettetela di usare venti post per scrivere stronzate usateli bene che uno smonta dal computer 2 ore e si trova con 3 pagine da leggere

"Stop using twenty post to write bullshit use them well that one dismounts from the computer two hours and is 3 pages to read"

[UTAlan]

worldwideweb3 (3) - Solaris, JonathanCrazyJ, iancudorinmarian
Ryli (2) - worldwideweb3, Espithel
Demagog  (1) - Ryli
kirbylover314 (1) - UTAlan

I'm okay w/ a w3 or Ryli lynch and may end up putting my vote on one of those spots before the end of the day. For now, I'll follow up w/ an inactive and hopefully pressure kirby into posting *something*.

[rob77dp]

worldwideweb3 (3) - Solaris, JonathanCrazyJ, iancudorinmarian
Ryli (2) - worldwideweb3, Espithel
Demagog  (1) - Ryli
kirbylover314 (2) - UTAlan, rob77dp

I have higher scum readings, of my own research and valuation, on www3 and Ryli _but_ I think early in the day there is information that can be had from pushing along a multi-way (but not too ridiculous *eyes Day 1*) set of trains.

Smettetela di usare venti post per scrivere stronzate usateli bene che uno smonta dal computer 2 ore e si trova con 3 pagine da leggere

Read faster? Dismount less often? Acces via phone?


Piggy-back onto UTA choosing to start up on kirby and cite inactivity:
If you are a town player, and you legitimately want to win and be on a winning town side, then being active and engaged to at least a minimal degree makes town's task of uncovering and eliminating mafia (Strawberries) monumentally easier.

In the long run, civilians cannot afford the risk of ignoring the inactive players because the easiest strategy for a scum to employ to hide or survive (this is their goal if they want to win) or not get caught is to simply be inactive and not post. Taking away this strategy is an attempt to force the mafia players to go to option "next" which has several choices but all of which are riskier and inherently harder to do than simply being allowed to do nothing.

[UTAlan]

Also, for the sake of transparency (irrelevant messages omitted):

[15:15:06] ‹UTAlan› ‹@Linkcat› Yo, FGO. Sky isn't here, so I'm gonna ask you.
[15:15:22] ‹UTAlan› Dead people can't post useful info, right? Like, what they did the night they died?
[15:15:46] ‹iancudorinmarian› Who did that?
[15:15:55] ‹UTAlan› Sub
[15:16:25] ‹worldwideweb3› ‹@UTAlan› depends on Mafia host ~
[15:16:38] ‹UTAlan› elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/eleme...
[15:16:48] ‹worldwideweb3› If sky didn't put that in rules, then sub will do it. We know he likes to exploit~
[15:17:07] ‹UTAlan› "(Rules pertaining to nightkills, voting, and cheating follow traditional mafia rules.)"
[15:17:08] ‹iancudorinmarian› ‹@UTAlan› wow
[15:17:38] ‹worldwideweb3› But why are we complaining? I mean it's good for us...
[15:18:02] ‹UTAlan› I get that, but I wanna win in a legit way.
[15:19:09] ‹UTAlan› (Also, as admin, I can't just overlook it.) >.<
[15:19:37] ‹worldwideweb3› ‹@UTAlan› you kinda can

[Espithel]

If I trusted the town more, I'd hop onto the kirby train to add a great deal of pressure. I support the notion.

Whilst we're at it, is there anyone else you folk'd consider inactive? I doubt kirb's the only one.

[UTAlan]

Whilst we're at it, is there anyone else you folk'd consider inactive? I doubt kirb's the only one.

By post count, danil, fabian, and mathman have the fewest. Luna and d2d after that.

[UTAlan]

(I guess technically d2d then Luna.)