#1. Rob, you forgot the part where Link can't know if you're mafia at this time or not. Obviously it's not a hard claim that you're mafia and we shouldn't take it seriously. Besides, it's Link and we shouldn't take anything he says seriously.
#2. No one said anything about post count. If all of your posts are going to be unrelated to the game, I'm going to push for your lynch. Maybe it'll force sky to actually play the game.
#3. I feel bad for going after a new player on day one... qq.
Solaris is definitely mafia.
1. No, I have already mentioned it is silly for a N0 hard-claim. I know he doesn't know... we all know only our own alignment right now - except for mafia who know ALL the player alignments.
Spoiler for rob previously addressing it, Dema - keep up now!:
Silly Rob, it's not fishy. Everyone and their mother thinks the same thing when one person says another person is mafia out of nowhere. Link seems certain you're mafia, going so far as to request a nightkill save on himself. That's much more serious than saying "I think rob is mafia." If you both turn out to be innocent, we can just call Link bad because he should know that this is the line we will likely take now based on his claim.
If Link were saying he were suspicious of you, then maybe your argument would have some validity.
Dema, you are sliding more and more mafia-lean here, to me... Are you seriously suggesting town lend weight to a hard-claim of X-is-mafia with no supporting argument? On night 0?!
I trust Lc is good enough at this game to have a gambit up his sleeve making such a bold N0 claim (I just really hope is is a town-sides gambit!).
Ebwop: <3 Onion. I actually just missed your name when looking through the list and was too lazy to move people down one slot. I'd put you somewhere in the middle.
Anything past slot ~6 up through ~13 in that list are just players that I haven't placed yet but I believe have played in many mafias. Below that point point are players I don't know well enough to place. Really, it's more like 3 groups than 19 individual spots.
For me, this further explanation increases my misgivings about how useful the list will be, beyond use in reading Dema, down the road.
Dema is right on the Rock... I was incorrectly thinking it revealed name AND alignment of the thrower to the target... Or does not.
The game started with two A Rock With A Note's... right? I recall from a recent game with a VERY similar mechanic that these CAN be used investigatively.
Holders of the rocks should toss them to players not likely to be nk'ed and a town recipient of a rock should immediately toss it back to the thrower if the thrower is a town player (mafia have no reason to throw ANY rocks as far add I can discern). Also, receiving a rock and not tossing it back I think should be considered scummy until explained otherwise.
Thoughts comments on this?
2. Good luck using in-game pressure to "force" sky to play the game... pressure away but in my past experience pressuring players like sky or CR (varying places on the skill spectrum, of course) I have noticed are very unfruitful and have rarely proven to outright help town when done ONLY because of post quality or post count.
3. I don't have a problem with players being new to mafia games. Of course everyone of us at one point was new to it so I would never presume to pressure ONLY because someone is new. Rather, what is the need to post "I am new" as part of your opening post? We all playing know who hasn't played before so stating it makes a bell or two ring off in my head.
(Lc - ninja-post/edit: I would have no issue pressuring Danil D1 but only
related to the fact saying you are new is silly... we already know they are new. Refer to my response to Dema #3.)
DC - not that I see in Dema's ISO...