Elements Mafia 62 - by Solaris

[rob77dp]

All present - please advise me.

I can let this Lc mislynch of me go through by not moving my vote to a tie.

I disdain tie votes. I know I am town. I am willing to tie a vote to save myself as town IF others agree enough to not purely out-and-out see it as scummy move.

I think I have value in the game as town. I am town. Therefore in this case _I_ know that tie vote saving my skin is a good thing for town in that I live.

However, I also understand that almost ANY lynch gives town information. Even if it is an active, intelligent, and town player like myself.

What say you players of Mafia 62 -- is town/rob worth saving for continuing at least into/through Night 1 _or_ is the information that can be gathered from my mislynch worth the thread presence and analytical skill lost by my being dead?

[rob77dp]

Espithel - do you plan on releasing your post, that it at least seems you've been typing for over 30 minutes now, prior to the end of Day 1?

[DoubleCapitals]

Bring me a compelling argument and I -may- vote with you to tiebreak. But that's a last resort. I dislike the current split of votes as-is.

But I understand if you force a tie from your POV. It's not a town or mafia read because either way, you would do that for self-perservation.

[UTAlan]

My opinion is that if you know you are town and you believe you are valuable to town, save yourself. We'll do what we can to avoid a no-lynch.

(It's funny how in this setup, changing your vote at the last moment to avoid a tie isn't as scummy as in other setups, since a no-lynch is actually beneficial to mafia. [Same as last game when I did it as town.])

[UTAlan]

Espithel - do you plan on releasing your post, that it at least seems you've been typing for over 30 minutes now, prior to the end of Day 1?

You people are a bunch of stalkers.

[rob77dp]

My opinion is that if you know you are town and you believe you are valuable to town, save yourself. We'll do what we can to avoid a no-lynch.

(It's funny how in this setup, changing your vote at the last moment to avoid a tie isn't as scummy as in other setups, since a no-lynch is actually beneficial to mafia. [Same as last game when I did it as town.])

Good point - I was meaning that it can be taken as scummy when a player self-pres votes at the dearth, saves themselves, and ends up mislynching a DIFFERENT villager. >.<

[Demagog]

What is the current vote status? Can we get a 5 minute extension for after its posted?

[Linkcat]

Rob, you know better than to think lynching a townrob here is ever remotely good. Nice last ditch attempt though.

[UTAlan]

Linkcat doing his thing again.

[DoubleCapitals]

I'm tempted to think the Link v rob issue is a town v town debate, and mafia's just sitting down sipping their teas wait for us to fight each other and leave inactive/useless people alive. Like me.

[rob77dp]

Bring me a compelling argument and I -may- vote with you to tiebreak. But that's a last resort. I dislike the current split of votes as-is.

But I understand if you force a tie from your POV. It's not a town or mafia read because either way, you would do that for self-perservation.

DC - I already am voting on Lc so we would need another vote PLUS yours there. My next scum-lean, albeit less strong than on Lc, is Kuro. I am only willing to vote on Kuro or Lc at this point given my stances/reads in a self-pres manner. Your thoughts on trying to get yours PLUS another to vote on Lc vs. both switching to Kuro?

[rob77dp]

Kuroaitou (3) - 1011686, dawn to dusk, rob77dp
Linkcat (1) - CleanOnion
Demagog (2) - Espithel, UTAlan
CleanOnion (1) - skyironsword
danil (2) - Demagog, Ryli
rob77dp (3) - Linkcat, iancudorinmarian, Kuroaitou

Moving to Kuro as self-pres from my top scum-lean onto my 2nd-most-scum lean... DC or UTA?