Elements Mafia 62 - by Solaris

[Linkcat]

If you read my post you would see that despite Ginyu being not lynchable, I said that my town circle was the same, so no, I am not townreading Ginyu other than what I said earlier. I put him there because I really want to hear more from him and it would be a shame to kill him Day 1.

[Kuroaitou]

I find your inclusion of Ginyu in a position that seems to imply he is in your possible circle of trust (movie reference anyone?) a bit odd. He has pretty much done NOTHING publicly that I can see as a reason why one could even _stretch_ to have him town-leaning...

Lc - can you safely explain why you have Ginyu in the "not allowed to lynch" list?

To be fair, Ginyu critiqued and prevented my terribad idea for a townie plan to come through, given how stupid it was.

If you read my post you would see that despite Ginyu being not lynchable, I said that my town circle was the same, so no, I am not townreading Ginyu other than what I said earlier. I put him there because I really want to hear more from him and it would be a shame to kill him Day 1.

My question is more prominent though - why is sky on the 'preference to lynch' list when you voted with her/me onto CleanOnion, the player that is your town read?

[Linkcat]

That's not a preference to lynch, that's just not banned from being lynched.

[rob77dp]

Lc - I really Really REALLY don't want to be misreading you if you're town (i.e. - a town-town interrogation here)... I'm going to be asleep/away for the next 6-ish hours. Are you capable of convincing me you're not a good D1 lynch? Am I capable of reading well enough to discern such a thing? Woof - gotta sleep and I see now the thread post count and it can only serve to dissuade low-count posters from becoming more involved

[Linkcat]

Lc - I really Really REALLY don't want to be misreading you if you're town (i.e. - a town-town interrogation here)... I'm going to be asleep/away for the next 6-ish hours. Are you capable of convincing me you're not a good D1 lynch? Am I capable of reading well enough to discern such a thing? Woof - gotta sleep and I see now the thread post count and it can only serve to dissuade low-count posters from becoming more involved

You're slippin'

[iancudorinmarian]

Kuroaitou (1) - 1011686
Linkcat (2) - CleanOnion, rob77dp
Demagog (2) - Espithel, UTAlan
CleanOnion (2) - skyironsword, Kuroaitou
danil (2) - Demagog, Ryli
rob77dp (2) - Linkcat, iancudorinmarian

I know I said I consider rob town-y, but I'll go Linkcat's way this time just to see what happens. We have no other leads anyway.

[Kuroaitou]

*sigh*

sky, I know that my cleaning capabilities could be better, but I'm afraid you'll have to ask your maid to mop the area. If you need help again, feel free to ask, but just remember you invited all of us for a party - I'm still a guest, after all.

Kuroaitou (1) - 1011686
Linkcat (2) - CleanOnion, rob77dp
Demagog (2) - Espithel, UTAlan
CleanOnion (1) - skyironsword
danil (2) - Demagog, Ryli
rob77dp (3) - Linkcat, iancudorinmarian, Kuroaitou

[snip]
I know I said I consider rob town-y, but I'll go Linkcat's way this time just to see what happens. We have no other leads anyway.

I'll remember your vote switch, and I hope others do the same of me as well, regardless of what happens in the new few hours.

[iancudorinmarian]

It's not like voting on fabian actually does anything for me, since nobody seems to think he's suspicious, so might as well make my vote useful instead of wasting it.

Just keep an eye on him, that's all I'm saying.

[dawn to dusk]

If Link is wrong and rob is town, it looks really bad on Link, and would be a reckless move if he were mafia. The problem is, Link is a sufficient enough player to know and understand these boundaries. I kind of want to lynch rob, if only to see what happens, but at the same time, I don't really want to waste a lynch phase. And the last predicament is that I'm not sure of anything else we can go off.
I think the most basic thing I can do here is a throwaway vote

Kuroaitou (2) - 1011686, dawn to dusk
Linkcat (2) - CleanOnion, rob77dp
Demagog (2) - Espithel, UTAlan
CleanOnion (1) - skyironsword
danil (2) - Demagog, Ryli
rob77dp (3) - Linkcat, iancudorinmarian, Kuroaitou

This is for leaving FGO

Either there is a 5 way tie, or rob get's lynched. Either way, my vote doesn't contribute to much which is what is intended at this stage

[1011686]

Ok theres only really one reason why i have my vote on Kuro now.
In this post

What defense post?

If rob is mafia with Onion, then he's leaving him out to dry while he knows that he's getting lynched himself eventually. Rob wouldn't do that with only 1 other mafia partner.

Spoiler for CleanOnion's "Defense" post:

Kuro, which message board post did you mean? The only two I can see with enough content are Hidden and Nojid, and I'm not seeing anything hidden there.

Dema, bottom of the list seems apt for me.

Link, I did.

It's not just the messages that have meaning CleanOnion, and I see this as an attempt by mafia trying to fish for information from two confirmed townies now, hencewhy I'm changing my vote.

I... what? Seriously?
You know what, go right ahead. If that makes me scummy then excuse me for being curious about your breadcrumbs. It's just as easy for you to be mafia leaving clues for other mafia.

Hmm... does anyone know Onion's voting habits? Does he often try to finalize bandwagons? That's what his vote was. Kuro may be on to something, and this goes along with my "mafia try to make bandwagons happen" theory. If Onion's vote was out of character for his typical voting behavior, I would be more inclined to vote on him.

We usually don't see an active Kuro so I'm not sure what to make of the current situation.

Probably not, seeing as I haven't played in many and the last one was rp-fuelled rubbish. But do try to guess

Prolly won't be back until a good few hours into the night phase, sorry I can't comment more on stuff

The reason why I say it's a sloppy defense post is of one main reason: in the spoiler-

For the orange: mafia players WOULD NOT use the anonymous board to leave clues for their partners. Since this isn't a mafia where all the mafia players are divided up and need to use a 'Search' function to figure out who else is a mafia/titan, all they would do is just talk to each other on their own host-provided pad and communicate with each other in private. They wouldn't have to resort to public encryption in the first place in order to try to help their faction; townies however would.


This push on rob... ugh. I don't know if I should follow it or not, given that I'm not reading rob as a mafia?  >.<

You don't address CleanOnion's actual concern. That is, that you think it was scummy to be curious about where you got your secret messages from.
I don't think it was scummy. I was curious about that myself.

[rob77dp]

Lc - glad that my non-slip could entertain you.  would you mind assembling your complete case against me in one post here so others can see it and I can assess it both to defend AND to use in further reading you?

Ian - follOwing someone else's vote without knowing or at least agreeing even a little with their argument is bad form. "Just to see what happens": I can tell you right what happens if I am mislynched -- town loses one of its most active players and dare I say one of our better players.

Kuro - I get a follow the leader vibe from your vote too. Please believe in your vote that you actually know and agree with the initiators reason our have some level of your own conviction it is the right voteor a good vote.

dawn - your vote and accompanying verbiage feels strange to me. Please don't lynch Lc just because I flip town if he succeeds in mislynching me here.

Be advised I have enough invested in the game already that a self-saving vote from me is incoming on someone as best as I can muster so don't act wreckless with your vote just because it is 3-2-2-2-2 right now.

[Ryli]

arf :3