Elements Mafia 61 - by Linkcat

[Linkcat]

dawn to dusk has been modkilled for inactivity.

He was Kuroaitou, and also Town.
Dark Regret (1U) - Using your FGO powers, target player is banished from the Forum Game section forever. (They die)

Don't Fuck With Kuro (Passive) - You are unaffected by all harmful actions except the Nightkill. Dark Regret can't be stopped by any other ability. (Except one)

This role is meant to show Kuro's inner badassery. It's there, I promise.

[Naii_the_Baf]

Two townies in one. Damnit.

[andretimpa]

Seriously guys, post something even if it's for avoiding a modkill

[mathman101]

Seriously guys, post something even if it's for avoiding a modkill

avoiding modkill? I can do that

[rob77dp]

UTA, I find your reasons for double-stabbing people a bit flimsy so I had a read over your posts. There are quite a few fluff-posts but I did find three 'real' posts among the non-fluff  that stick out to me as attempts to pocket me first -- second -- third. Can you explain or provide any explanation _why_ you give Root and I town-leans? I see you've leaned both of us town three times but never with any real solid backup for it. [A town-lean is not a bad thing but being pocketed can be a dangerous thing]

Also, what is the reasoning for double-stabbing other players if you are town and are unsure of the alignment of your targets? The more I think on it the more suspicious it is of you setting up as many players as possible for a future stab-once-and-kill (almost like a double-NK -- a scary thing to consider).

{Come on, let's give better efforts around here on the 'avoiding modkill' - at least TRY to make a useful post?}

[Espithel]

Yeah, er, no, I can guarantee one of you bastards isn't civ

[Fippe94]

I see UTA's reason for double stab as valid. If he only stabbed people once, then ability is useless. If he is town and is unsure about his targets, giving himself the ability to kill them in the future if they are mafia is a perfectly valid stragy in my opinion.

[UTAlan]

Gonna make a quick post to respond to rob. I can come back and make a more in depth one later.

For strategy, basically what Fippe said. I'm not sure what your recommended strategy for my ability would be, but I don't see another way to keep it from being completely useless.

For town-leans: the short answer is that I don't really know how to scum-read, so I just do the best I can. Without having time to go back and look at posts, I just thought Root's one non-filler post was solid and gave him a town-lean. And I recall one or two decent sized posts from you early on that seemed very town. Either of you may have fully duped me, so I'm open to anyone else's opinion on each of you.

[worldwideweb3]

So here's the full players list of who is alive at this point in the game:

Spoiler for Hidden:

• CleanOnion
• DoubleCapitals
• Espithel
• Fippe94
• Hyroen
• JonathanCrazyJ
• RootRanger
• Sera
• Solaris
• UTAlan
• andretimpa
• dawn to dusk
• fabian771
• godisnowonline
• killsdazombies
• mathman101
• rob77dp
• worldwideweb3

Of those, Sera is confirmed civvy (as much as we'll get confirmed in this setup, anyway).

Next, we have those that are strongly leaning town due to their claimed abilities / results of someone else's claimed ability:

* Fippe as investigative of some sort
* CO as confirmed by Fippe
* godisnowonline as town ability (bodyguard)
* Espithel as claimed neutered Jester

Not that they are 100% confirmed by any means, but we can put off lynching them until later in the game, if necessary. This leaves us with:

Spoiler for Hidden:

• DoubleCapitals
• Hyroen
• JonathanCrazyJ
• RootRanger
• Solaris
• UTAlan
• andretimpa
• dawn to dusk
• fabian771
• killsdazombies
• mathman101
• rob77dp
• worldwideweb3

So 13 (12 in my mind, since I know that I'm town) remaining players, maybe 1 fewer depending on who gets NK'd tonight. We're nearing a 50% chance of lynching mafia if we randomly selected the target. Hopefully we can have improved odds with scumreading and investigative roles and such. We should also be careful not to let the semi-confirmed players determine the lynch target, at least until we can get some sort of actual confirmation.

Personally, I'm still thinking Root and rob are leaning town, and probably Solaris, as well. Everyone else is a big shrug b/c I suck at scumreading. -_- (If we go back to low posters, which is obviously not perfect but at least it's something, that puts killsdazombies, dawn to dusk, worldwideweb3, fabian771, and Hyroen as the 5 w/ the fewest posts [in that order]. [I chose 5 b/c there are 5 mafia members. andre, Fippe, Root and Rob are next in order, just for the record.])

I'm thinking I'll stab Fippe or CO twice so we can have that as a backup method for killing one of them if needed in late game? (Assuming I haven't been killed by then.)

Thoughts?

Im surprised why gino/fippe/CO are your pretty much conf towns. Just because they claimed and/or were investigated by someone? well, then why isnt math there, who i also confirmed? seems a bit weird...I can only assume you missed it or something?

[killsdazombies]

Alright so here I am, ready to be a genuine player in this game. So, I'd like to know a bit about the fippe CO thing. I don't think we should take the "100% confirmed" at face value, I'd prefer if we can get a third party to confirm one of them as town. (preferably, fippe) Additionally the Gino last second save inspires some... disdain. The mass amount of time extensions leaves a bad taste in my mouth. If Gino flips mafia, or one of the people who jumped ship to help gino, (CleanOnion, mathman101, Solaris, worldwideweb3, JonathanCrazyJ) we should seriously look at them. Beyond that I have to read most of the posts, and still have to try to find a read on people. More posts later

[Espithel]

If Gino flips mafia, or one of the people who jumped ship to help gino, (CleanOnion, mathman101, Solaris, worldwideweb3, JonathanCrazyJ) we should seriously look at them. Beyond that I have to read most of the posts, and still have to try to find a read on people. More posts later

No, we should just seriously look at them anyway.

The willingness for so many people to jump bandwagon there was absurd.

[Fippe94]

Basically, gino had roleclaimed, numbers hadn't. There wasn't much time.