Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu

[Solaris]

CleanOnion (2) - Linkcat, JonathanCrazyJ
randomperson123 (1) - Sera
Discord (1) - rob77dp
Calindu (1) - Solaris
Submachine (1) - Demagog
Solaris (1) - Calindu

Why the random vote on me?

you werent talking much, and hence, i believe.

Yup. Reaction is keeping it there.

[rob77dp]

CleanOnion (2) - Linkcat, JonathanCrazyJ
randomperson123 (1) - Sera
Discord (1) - rob77dp
Calindu (1) - Solaris
Submachine (1) - Demagog
Solaris (1) - Calindu

Why the random vote on me?

you werent talking much, and hence, i believe.

Yup. Reaction is keeping it there.

Are you saying you don't like the OMGUS style reaction?

[Demagog]

OMG fewer acronyms please!

[Solaris]

CleanOnion (2) - Linkcat, JonathanCrazyJ
randomperson123 (1) - Sera
Discord (1) - rob77dp
Calindu (1) - Solaris
Submachine (1) - Demagog
Solaris (1) - Calindu

Why the random vote on me?

you werent talking much, and hence, i believe.

Yup. Reaction is keeping it there.

Are you saying you don't like the OMGUS style reaction?

Exactly. Never have, never will.

[Linkcat]

After Onion posted, I complained to him that now it wouldn't work on anyone else. He replied that if I had told him that earlier, he would have been even more certain to post.

Before reading up on what happened earlier, Uncle Submachine is here to present you his latest strategy.

Spoiler for Read this if you want context:

In professional mafia games, I noticed that players who put their votes on a bandwagon are instantly questioned and put on trial. In Elements Mafia however, it's normal to a huge amount of players to just join a bandwagon without any personal reason. This takes away the opportunity from scumreading other players. Giving explanation to every vote is not something that we could enforce other players to do, but I had an idea to solve the issue somewhat. Behold!

The Self-Aware Mafia Player Certificate People who sign the Certificate acknowledge themselves as Self-Aware Mafia Players. Self-Aware Mafia Players have the following traits: Behind every vote they cast, there is a reasoning that makes sense. When they cast their vote, they explain their reasoning publicly. They do not join a bandwagon by default, even when they are voting to avoid modkill. They only do that if they have a sensible reason for it, and that reason is not entirely someone else's. If they are being questioned about something scummy, they do try their best to explain themselves. If they are not scum, they do not actively try to look like scum, not even jokingly. If they do, they give an obvious sign of sarcasm in their post. Self-Aware Mafia Players can and should be questioned every time they do not give a reasoning for a vote. The more people sign up to the Certificate, the more likely it will be to scumread actual mafia/wolves. After the start of each new mafia game, the certificate signup needs to be renewed. To sign up to the certificate, quote this post and then write something that clearly implies that you are willing to sign up. By doing so, you will help the town's chances to scumread other players and you will also help making mafia games better.

Spectacular as always, Sub.

It's a decent idea, but there's a few problems. As Dema said, it can be advantageous to act scummy as town. It's also not always possible to have a unique opinion on a bandwagon, like if a mafia is outed. The main thing that needs to be emphasized here is that players should always give reasoning for their votes, unless they are purposefully leaving it out. Far too many times I have seen votes cast with no explanation, and many of those times reasoning was given when asked. Keeping your thoughts to yourself won't do town any good.

[Solaris]

SHITPOSTING INTENSIFIES

(you can post now)

[asdw152]

In glhf

[Solaris]

In glhf

mvp

[Ginyu]

No my logic still applies to your scenario. Either mafia didn't target anyone or they targeted a mafia. In my mind, nurse would only get a "your action was blocked" message if they successfully chose someone that would have died. Both outcomes of the mafia NK vote would have ended up in me not getting a you were blocked message if I were nurse because my ability wouldn't have activated anyway.

Maybe I'm wrong and you get the blocked message no matter what. Only Ginyu can tell us.

You get the interruption message whenever you used an ability and get arrested or your target forwarned, no matter if it would have an effect.
Thematically, you cannot know if your action would have done something while sitting in the police station or don't get to your target.

[Demagog]

Aww ok.

[Linkcat]

While I would love to continue to push Onion today, something bigger has come up. With the aid of a Scientist who will remain unnamed, I determined that a certain player was Special Forces, but I didn't know which kind. Some of you will recall that I asked you if you were the other Loyal Special Forces. I succeeded in my search, and they will also remain unnamed. This confirms that the other player is mafia. With this, I want to show that you don't need to have a powerful role or be good at reading people to find the mafia.

I want to set the tone for the rest of the game.
I want to send a message to the mafia.
You are not safe.
You are not prepared.
One by one, I will come for you.
Using nothing but the name of my role, I have already found one of you.

And his name is rob.

CleanOnion (1) - JonathanCrazyJ
randomperson123 (1) - Sera
Discord (1) - rob77dp
Calindu (1) - Solaris
Submachine (1) - Demagog
Solaris (1) - Calindu
rob77dp (1) - Linkcat

[JonathanCrazyJ]

is this affected at all by the fact that LSF might be mafia in this version?

I don't think so, looks solid, good job if correct LC.

randomperson123 (1) - Sera
Discord (1) - rob77dp
Calindu (1) - Solaris
Submachine (1) - Demagog
Solaris (1) - Calindu
rob77dp (2) - Linkcat, JonathanCrazyJ