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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235641#msg1235641
« Reply #108 on: June 21, 2016, 01:03:41 am »
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How are you going to convince robots to claim to be robots when there's a higher chance of robots being mafia? Obviously, mafia won't. e.e)

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235642#msg1235642
« Reply #109 on: June 21, 2016, 01:03:53 am »
We are not going to lynch Robots because they are Robots.

We are not going to overly avoid lynching Robots because they are Robots.

Regardless of how the Robots vote, The Evil is not going to use Mass Control this early.

Based on this, it's not necessary for all of the Robots to claim right now.

RIP Dema though.

Of course I would agree if this included a caveat like "a smart player as The Evil is not going to use Mass Control this early". ;-P

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235644#msg1235644
« Reply #110 on: June 21, 2016, 01:06:57 am »
i'm Unsure if this Night 0 having normal mechanics means there is a NK but it will be by popular-vote of the Criminals. This means, to me, that the "thought of as more skilled by our general group of mafia game players" players have a somewhat OK chance of surviving Night 0!
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235645#msg1235645
« Reply #111 on: June 21, 2016, 01:07:52 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235646#msg1235646
« Reply #112 on: June 21, 2016, 01:07:57 am »
They are going to use it if we get lucky and try to lynch a mafia member.

Are we disadvantaged in any way if all robots claim? I don't think so. Are we advantaged if all robots claim AND work together? I definitely think so.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235648#msg1235648
« Reply #113 on: June 21, 2016, 01:09:53 am »
Scripted unique roles: Officer, Judge, Nurse, Paranoiac.
Any other role, except for Unemployed, is also in the game, but their exact number will not be told.
What exactly is meant by Scripted unique roles?

Those roles are in the game exactly once by definition. There was no chance for them to duplicate (or not making it to the game at all).


i'm Unsure if this Night 0 having normal mechanics

As I posted in the Night-beginning post, Night 0 is treated like any other night in the game, meaning you can use abilities and Criminals can vote for a Nightkill target.
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235649#msg1235649
« Reply #114 on: June 21, 2016, 01:10:00 am »
Rob77dp [1] - Espithel

I died for you last mafia.
Now die for me >:U
(No, this is not a srs vote. I'm just saying I'm here. Currently writing shit up.
Two questions whilst I write things up:
How powerful is THE EVIL's role?
How are you going to convince robots to claim to be robots when there's a higher chance of robots being mafia? Obviously, mafia won't. e.e)

Scripted unique roles: Officer, Judge, Nurse, Paranoiac.
Any other role, except for Unemployed, is also in the game, but their exact number will not be told.
What exactly is meant by Scripted unique roles?

Ps GUYS SHUT UP I'M TRYING TO POST AAA
It sways up to three votes for them. That sounds really good.

Also, if Dema turns out to be mafia and the nurse claims, we're very dead. There are no cons to them lynching robots anymore. It makes this very suspicious: it is possible that this is exactly what Dema's plan is.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235650#msg1235650
« Reply #115 on: June 21, 2016, 01:11:05 am »
EBWOP: there are no cons to them not nightkilling robots anymore.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235651#msg1235651
« Reply #116 on: June 21, 2016, 01:14:21 am »
i'm Unsure if this Night 0 having normal mechanics means there is a NK but it will be by popular-vote of the Criminals. This means, to me, that the "thought of as more skilled by our general group of mafia game players" players have a somewhat OK chance of surviving Night 0!

I only expect to be killed because of how strongly I'm pushing a strategy that will hurt the mafia. If I die, please use my strategy! Also nurse, don't listen to Linkcat. PM me! Take the risk! Your role isn't strong enough that a mafia member would out themselves to reveal you, and the only way I could get you killed is to be a special forces, which I can't be because I'm a robot... and even if I had lied... actually I'm not sure what the % chance to be evil special forces is, first you have to role mafia, then you have to role TSF... I imagine the % chance of me being TSF is really low.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235652#msg1235652
« Reply #117 on: June 21, 2016, 01:22:10 am »
The Evil can't be a Robot, and he can only use Mass Control during the Night.

This means he won't know if a mafia will be lynched the next day, and he won't use it.

Espithel, the 54% is for all the Robots together to contain any mafia.

Seriously, don't claim to Dema. There's actually zero benefit.
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235653#msg1235653
« Reply #118 on: June 21, 2016, 01:23:48 am »
EBWOP: there are no cons to them not nightkilling robots anymore.

There are cons for them, actually. If all robots claim and any mafia are robots, mafia can't kill them. Mafia doesn't want to kill them because they can get a vote advantage. They actually lose a bit of an advantage by killing robots.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235654#msg1235654
« Reply #119 on: June 21, 2016, 01:28:14 am »
EBWOP: there are no cons to them not nightkilling robots anymore.

There are cons for them, actually. If all robots claim and any mafia are robots, mafia can't kill them. Mafia doesn't want to kill them because they can get a vote advantage. They actually lose a bit of an advantage by killing robots.

Not a guaranteed fact - if mafia don't feel much advantage is gained by Mass Control compared to advantage of killing known robots then they may very well end up choosing to kill robots. Also, derp-voting might happen if a less-than-attentive mafia somehow manages to send in a less-than-ideal vote for their NK target.
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