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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236751#msg1236751
« Reply #612 on: July 02, 2016, 10:44:21 pm »
I'll go ahead and say this now. I'm a spy. Been following Onion every night, except the first night when Link asked me to follow mathman (I didn't trust Link so I followed randomperson instead, which is why I voted on randomperson that first day phase). So far every arrest Onion has claimed to make has been true.

So let's say Onion is mafia. Every time he arrests someone he reveals they aren't mafia. If he lies and says he arrested someone and a night kill happens, they are cleared of mafia status anyway. If he continues to not arrest people, it becomes increasingly obvious that he's mafia. So if Onion is mafia, the truth will come out eventually. My job as a spy is pretty much done, as the spy can't see night kill votes.

If I were mafia, I would have killed Onion last night phase, knowing that he can clear people of being mafia. I don't think there was any way to know who was the nurse, killing the nurse was likely just luck on the part of the mafia (and submachine drawing a lot of attention to himself). Knowing that, I think the level of suspicion on me should be extremely low.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236752#msg1236752
« Reply #613 on: July 02, 2016, 10:46:24 pm »
Also, Solaris possibly killing a mafia while also being a mafia is within the rules. You would have to know who else is mafia to intentionally harm them. So it's possible she is one because it is very unlikely that, assuming Solaris is mafia, she would know who any other mafia members were that early in the game.

We don't have to kill her yet, Onion can target her tonight and clear her name. Of course, he'll die tonight, buuut who knows.

First off, Solaris is a guy. (WHY DO PEOPLE NINJA ME DANGIT SOLARIS)

Second off, pulling that strategy off would be so... god, that would actually be pretty insane. After asking Ginyu about this, apparently you -can- kill other mafia players with abilities other than the night kill (which isn't an ability), so that... that would be plausible. All engineers could have gotten away with this.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236753#msg1236753
« Reply #614 on: July 02, 2016, 10:46:42 pm »
Swear I looked at your pronoun in chat recently and it said you were female... oops hehheh. Sera, Sky, Solaris... 'S' name = she in my mind :-p

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236754#msg1236754
« Reply #615 on: July 02, 2016, 10:47:59 pm »
still gonna vote you dema

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236755#msg1236755
« Reply #616 on: July 02, 2016, 10:48:51 pm »
Seems pretty illogical to me.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236756#msg1236756
« Reply #617 on: July 02, 2016, 10:55:36 pm »
Seems pretty illogical to me.
Nope. Logic is that I think you're mafia. :P

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236757#msg1236757
« Reply #618 on: July 02, 2016, 10:57:47 pm »
Can you give more reasoning as to why demagogue is mafiafufu
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236758#msg1236758
« Reply #619 on: July 02, 2016, 10:59:38 pm »
I presented a logical case on why it's unlikely that I'm mafia and you say you think it's me anyway... doesn't build much confidence in your vote in anyone else's perspective.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236759#msg1236759
« Reply #620 on: July 02, 2016, 11:00:03 pm »
Can you give more reasoning as to why demagogue is mafiafufu
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I think Demagog is mafia because Demagog is mafia.

Jokes aside, Dema literally said that he did not care who died today. Surely, if he were civ, he'd want for a mafia to die, and not just anyone? I can look further if you want. But not now.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236760#msg1236760
« Reply #621 on: July 02, 2016, 11:09:58 pm »
Dena, you seem exactly the type to stalk me, I believe you on that one.

To be honest - I have no clue why mafia haven't killed me yet. Presumably it's because I'm sus, so I'm like a lynch shield for them.

If Dema is checking who I'm targeting, does that confirm me as civvy seeing as he'd know who I target? Sorry, I'm on a Windows phone, I can't post and check rules at the same time :P

Not targeting anyone was due to negligence and unrealisation of necessity. I'll be sure to target someone tonight - await an ebwop as I read the rules....

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236761#msg1236761
« Reply #622 on: July 02, 2016, 11:12:55 pm »
Here is the promised ebwop - if i get killed tonight, Dena should still be able to tell you who my target was and hence confirm them

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236763#msg1236763
« Reply #623 on: July 02, 2016, 11:26:57 pm »
Hopefully that will work. Not sure if my ability will work on you if you are nightkilled.

 

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