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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236611#msg1236611
« Reply #552 on: July 01, 2016, 10:49:21 pm »
EBWOP: No, that is not a serious vote.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236613#msg1236613
« Reply #553 on: July 01, 2016, 10:59:29 pm »
Thanks for the appreciation jcj <3

Surely I would have "targeted" one of my mafia buddies if I were mafia?

Or am I suspect because I'm suspected of being lazy

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236614#msg1236614
« Reply #554 on: July 01, 2016, 11:02:32 pm »
Thanks for the appreciation jcj <3

Surely I would have "targeted" one of my mafia buddies if I were mafia?

Or am I suspect because I'm suspected of being lazy

There is only 1 mafia left alive.
So if you target someone, and say you targeted them, and there was a Nightkill, either:

You are a civvy, and targeted a civvy, because the nightkill wasn't stopped. Person you named = Civvy.
You are mafia, and targeted a civvy, because the nightkill wasn't stopped. person you named = Civvy.

Not targeting anyone makes me want to kill you.
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236615#msg1236615
« Reply #555 on: July 01, 2016, 11:05:38 pm »
Your insistence on making me look scummy is making you look scummy

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236616#msg1236616
« Reply #556 on: July 01, 2016, 11:06:37 pm »
You just said I can confirm civvies, why does that make you want to kill me?

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236617#msg1236617
« Reply #557 on: July 01, 2016, 11:09:27 pm »
You just said I can confirm civvies, why does that make you want to kill me?

I mean, you could've just said X is civ if you were mafia, hiding the fact you targeted no one. That would be a much, much smarter play.

You are merely negligent.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236618#msg1236618
« Reply #558 on: July 01, 2016, 11:10:30 pm »
Because you didn't do it lol.

I don't want to kill you this round, but if you don't arrest someone tonight you're top of my lynch-list :P

The same goes if there are any other policemen, get in contact with someone confirmed, and/or start posting who you targeted
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236619#msg1236619
« Reply #559 on: July 01, 2016, 11:11:19 pm »
You just said I can confirm civvies, why does that make you want to kill me?

I mean, you could've just said X is civ if you were mafia, hiding the fact you targeted no one. That would be a much, much smarter play.

You are merely negligent.
That's what I suggested just a moment ago, yeah

Surely I would have "targeted" one of my mafia buddies if I were mafia?

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236622#msg1236622
« Reply #560 on: July 01, 2016, 11:13:26 pm »
Sidenote - how likely is it for the remaining mafia member to be a non-robot role? Was it like, 46% or whatever the compliment was of the 'higher than 50%' possibility?

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236623#msg1236623
« Reply #561 on: July 01, 2016, 11:16:59 pm »
Sidenote - how likely is it for the remaining mafia member to be a non-robot role? Was it like, 46% or whatever the compliment was of the 'higher than 50%' possibility?

As i understand it, no more or less likely than anyone else being a robot
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236625#msg1236625
« Reply #562 on: July 01, 2016, 11:29:50 pm »
I think it's 17%? Pretty sure I posted somewhere with that number. It was 54% to start the game, but we know that only 1 mafia could be a robot (since 2 were impossible and 1 didn't roll robot). I think that brings the chance down to 33%. For some reason I halved that to 17%, but can't remember why.

Anyway, don't kill Onion yet. He is a kill we can leave for later, and the longer the mafia doesn't kill him, the more likely it is to be him (because what mafia would leave someone alive that can confirm civs). Most likely he will die next, so lynching him would be a waste.

Right now, 12 people are still alive. Assuming two people die every round starting now, we have five votes to kill the last mafia member. After the fifth vote it's GG. Calindu is confirmed civ, and it's still possible for scientists to figure out who the mafia member is.

Be patient and civs have this game in the bag.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1236626#msg1236626
« Reply #563 on: July 01, 2016, 11:38:11 pm »
Sidenote - how likely is it for the remaining mafia member to be a non-robot role? Was it like, 46% or whatever the compliment was of the 'higher than 50%' possibility?

As i understand it, no more or less likely than anyone else being a robot

...well shit, then I guess a lot more roles became useless. :(

On another note, I'm -pretty- sure that CleanOnion is not a mafia member, although if he is/was, being a policeman basically negates the possibility of his nightkill being blocked ever, which would be one of the most powerful combinations in the game. :o I doubt that he's a Criminal though - if anything, as long as we have Officers and one other nurse, this game should end soon anyway.

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I think it's 17%? Pretty sure I posted somewhere with that number. It was 54% to start the game, but we know that only 1 mafia could be a robot (since 2 were impossible and 1 didn't roll robot). I think that brings the chance down to 33%. For some reason I halved that to 17%, but can't remember why.

Anyway, don't kill Onion yet. He is a kill we can leave for later, and the longer the mafia doesn't kill him, the more likely it is to be him (because what mafia would leave someone alive that can confirm civs). Most likely he will die next, so lynching him would be a waste.

Right now, 12 people are still alive. Assuming two people die every round starting now, we have five votes to kill the last mafia member. After the fifth vote it's GG. Calindu is confirmed civ, and it's still possible for scientists to figure out who the mafia member is.

Be patient and civs have this game in the bag.

Still don't know how those numbers are coming about Demagog. >_>

And I don't want to sound pessimistic or useless, but if the last mafia member ISN'T a robot, then scientists are basically out of luck in doing anything investigative. I agree what you say about CleanOnion - but I'm more concerned about the possibility that the other policeman making arrests is either a) "afk", or b) the actual remaining mafia, which we can't stop with any ability due to roleblocking prioritization/precedence over the other main abilities.

 

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