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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235762#msg1235762
« Reply #204 on: June 21, 2016, 09:58:31 pm »
Things we know: 54% chance that at least 1 robot is mafia.

I don't think we will be able to convince the robots to claim, we saw how well that went last time.

We can use last games strategy of randomly choosing 5 people and only voting on them! /s hahaha

I can try studying the rules again when I get home later to see if anything sticks out that we can use.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235763#msg1235763
« Reply #205 on: June 21, 2016, 10:07:05 pm »
Officer/Judge, target people who aren't going to be Nightkilled.

In regards to judge, surely if they target someone who is about to be nightkilled, that confirms the second person they're going to target, right? Or is the overall ground covered worth more?
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235764#msg1235764
« Reply #206 on: June 21, 2016, 10:15:17 pm »
The Judge is going to target a certain amount of people in the game, and should do so in a connected chain. One of those people will die eventually, and it's better for that to happen later than sooner. You want your targets to live as long as possible overall.

It's also probably best for the Clairvoyant to not Forewarn.
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235765#msg1235765
« Reply #207 on: June 21, 2016, 10:26:01 pm »
Okay, yeah, that's a good point.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235766#msg1235766
« Reply #208 on: June 21, 2016, 10:43:27 pm »
I was an Electrical Engineer last time. I wanted to bait out false robot-claimers so I could throw the ability immediately. Dema's robot play would have instantly killed him.

So hello, everyone. Does everything else still apply? Do you want some bread?

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235769#msg1235769
« Reply #209 on: June 21, 2016, 11:14:51 pm »
I think if you are LSF and think you will be lynched, you should role claim. We can still choose to lynch you, but we will split up votes so that it is very difficult for TSF to get permanent voting power.

If there is a bandwagon, special forces players will vote together. If there is not, they will separate votes. This way they can ensure that if voting manipulation happens they at least get some voting power if the person that dies is a rival SF. Unless they know a person is rival SF, of course.

SF players are incentivized to not vote for robots. If you are in a close lynch vote and are a robot, claiming to be a robot will make SF players not vote for you.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235770#msg1235770
« Reply #210 on: June 21, 2016, 11:18:28 pm »
I was an Electrical Engineer last time. I wanted to bait out false robot-claimers so I could throw the ability immediately. Dema's robot play would have instantly killed him.

So hello, everyone. Does everything else still apply? Do you want some bread?

I don't see a strategic reason to do that... but guess I dodged a bullet lol.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235771#msg1235771
« Reply #211 on: June 21, 2016, 11:21:04 pm »
I don't see a strategic reason to do that... but guess I dodged a bullet lol.
False robots are very likely mafia. If they're not lying then they wouldn't die. I planned to throw it on the most suspicious robot claim.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235773#msg1235773
« Reply #212 on: June 21, 2016, 11:30:00 pm »
I woke up this morning to a shortage of strawberries.

Strawberries mean a lot to me! Can you imagine if you ran out of bread?

A shortage of them is immensely troubling. Without strawberries, I can't bake cake, or make strawberry soda, or eat them whole.

I'm here today to ask all of you for assistance. Are there any strawberry enthusiasts out there that can direct me towards the nearest strawberry store?

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235774#msg1235774
« Reply #213 on: June 21, 2016, 11:31:00 pm »
I woke up this morning to a shortage of strawberries.

Strawberries mean a lot to me! Can you imagine if you ran out of bread?

A shortage of them is immensely troubling. Without strawberries, I can't bake cake, or make strawberry soda, or eat them whole.

I'm here today to ask all of you for assistance. Are there any strawberry enthusiasts out there that can direct me towards the nearest strawberry store?
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235775#msg1235775
« Reply #214 on: June 21, 2016, 11:33:31 pm »
There are no more strawberries. Get paranoid.
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235776#msg1235776
« Reply #215 on: June 21, 2016, 11:37:27 pm »
I was an Electrical Engineer last time. I wanted to bait out false robot-claimers so I could throw the ability immediately. Dema's robot play would have instantly killed him.

So hello, everyone. Does everything else still apply? Do you want some bread?

Sera - in the false-start version you were the role I had wanted... EE matches my real life profession/job/career! :D I would have used the ability about like you were planning, after all what good is a mafia game full of power roles if players don't power-use them!? (AMIRITE?)

(We should probably wait until CLOSE of the rebooted version to post our suspicions from false-start-Night-0 of who we thought in the old killed-game was mafia?)
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