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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235655#msg1235655
« Reply #120 on: June 21, 2016, 01:30:31 am »
There's actually a huge benefit to claiming to me... promise!

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235656#msg1235656
« Reply #121 on: June 21, 2016, 01:31:59 am »
Let's not do anything rash here. Stay calm, and think your actions through.

Otherwise, you might do something you regret!

Besides, no one likes having a rash.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235658#msg1235658
« Reply #122 on: June 21, 2016, 01:38:16 am »
*Cough*

Onto the topic of THE EVIL (Praise the sun):

If I was THE EVIL IN ALL OF OUR HEARTS (Praise the sun), I'd laugh at how much you lasses are overestimating its ability.
So let's see.
THE UNGODLY SIN (Praise the sun) is a mafia role that can't be a robot that allows you to rig the lynch.
That's only good if THE CHILD OF HITLER (Praise the sun) actually felt threatened, though, because once he uses that ability, we'll know. He'll stick out like a sore thumb, and then all the investigative roles will just carve up that bandwagon and horribly, horribly mutilate him... Unless the paranoiac is a sinner.

So really, what's the benefit of claiming robot 'ere?
- Only civilians actually will, meaning we're going to watch a lot of semi-confirmed civs die before they get any credible information, which is just wasteful,
- THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT (Praise the sun) is best to use the ability when it's threatened, and the mafia can confer, which likely removes a possibility of THE FINAL DEPRAVITY (Praise the sun) being bad,
- And mafia robots just won't claim they're robots to prevent them being mutilated.

I mean, I suppose there's no disadvantage, but there's no real advantage, either. x.x

EBWOP: there are no cons to them not nightkilling robots anymore.

Can you elaborate? This implies there is a con as of now, which I'm unaware of if there is.

Also nurse, don't listen to Linkcat. PM me! Take the risk! Your role isn't strong enough that a mafia member would out themselves to reveal you,

Tfw Demagog says that a doctor that's also a confirmed civilian isn't a strong enough role ._.

Espithel, the 54% is for all the Robots together to contain any mafia.

That's practically the same thing though.
Mafia'll use THE BLACK DESPAIR (Praise the sun) to control the lynch when they're threatened.
To prevent usage of THE SUN (Praise the sun) to control the lynch, we need to mutilate robots.
... Meaning we're going to mutilate anyone who claims robot. And the mafia won't claim robot.
... So really we're just killing soft-confirmed civs, right?

... I think Demagog's the paranoiac. Just sayin'
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Is that SERIOUSLY the best name you could come up with?
I am going to have so much fun taking the mick out of that this game.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235659#msg1235659
« Reply #123 on: June 21, 2016, 02:43:25 am »
From what i gatthered reading this quickly, at 3 am, Dema is acting really weird/scummy. Maybe that's the way he plays, idk, can someone who has played before with him confirm it or something?
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235660#msg1235660
« Reply #124 on: June 21, 2016, 02:47:47 am »
That's just Dema.
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235661#msg1235661
« Reply #125 on: June 21, 2016, 02:53:35 am »
If you always act the scummiest, you'll never be scummy at all.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235662#msg1235662
« Reply #126 on: June 21, 2016, 02:56:44 am »
If you always act the scummiest, you'll never be scummy at all.

A more Linkcat-y thing may never have been posted by Linkcat himself. :) Really though if you cannot play nearly equally in terms of scummy/unscummy as both civilian and mafia then you're in for a world of mediocre, right?

Anyways - I would like to second the statement made here recently NOT to Nurse-claim to anybody yet, if you are the Nurse.
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235663#msg1235663
« Reply #127 on: June 21, 2016, 03:30:13 am »
Alright, I've been given the go ahead to go forward with this plan.

I'm one of the loyal special forces. Everyone, PM me your roles/abilities. I will pass that information on to my partner. A few hours before the deadline tomorrow, I will tell everyone that I am certain is town who my partner is so that you won't be tricked by a mafia member. Anyone that doesn't PM me or PM's me a role that someone else claims to have will be revealed in the thread (both people, but if mafia claim to be power roles then they are outing themselves).

By doing this, all of our power roles will be in touch with each other.

Nurse, target me tonight. I lied about being a robot, was hoping it could get the real robots to claim and also help me stay alive. Don't think that plan will work anymore.

I'll reveal everything hopefully in 15-16 hours. If I've revealed stuff and you haven't PM'd me, you can still do so afterwards.

Unfortunately this strategy didn't occur to me until after I had brought a ton of attention to myself. Otherwise I'd have hoped to live through the night and done it during the day when there would be more time for people to PM me. It doesn't feel right to have my partner do it since it was my idea, but that was an option.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235664#msg1235664
« Reply #128 on: June 21, 2016, 03:33:11 am »
Wait a few hours for a counterclaim before sending your info.

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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235665#msg1235665
« Reply #129 on: June 21, 2016, 03:33:40 am »
No why am I trusting you after you lied anyways.
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235666#msg1235666
« Reply #130 on: June 21, 2016, 03:38:03 am »
Lots of this seems suspicious Dema -- just at face value if you already lied about the robot thing then why (as www3 puts it here) should we trust you?

(Note: it does seem to me a bold bold move that a mafia would not likely make this early since if you are mafia then 1/4 of the mafia team will be out once you're outed...?)
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Re: Elements Mafia 60 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62141.msg1235667#msg1235667
« Reply #131 on: June 21, 2016, 03:40:08 am »
Because it's a stupid move for mafia to make this play. I would have to be FSF to do this as mafia. Even then, I'd be outed immediately, and LSF would both get +2 voting power.

The only reason I'm making this play is that I think it will work, and I think that I'll be targeted tonight.

 

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