Elements Mafia 59 - by RootRanger

[rob77dp]

kdz - have you anything to add here?

sky has weighed in, I have weighed in, and of my top 'reads' only yourself and dawn have not yet injected anything this day (or lots of day in dawn's case)...

[killsdazombies]

The nonkill last night could have been to draw players to lynch the afks. Its the only possible situation where the no kill could be held as mildly strategic. Beyond, i am uncertain. Ill have my computer up in a few hours (minor technical issues) and ill be able to scum hunt more effectively, but it seems to me either math or suncat is mafia. Personally, im leaning to suncat because sky is confident, and i already had a bad vibe throughout the game about him. Though, its difficult to push out bias in this game, and he did vote on me along with a mafia...

That raises another point though, when the vote was close to a tie (cal just placed his single vote and everyone else was at 2) math agreed with cal and set it to a four way tie cal was sure to come out clean on. Thats a heavy burden for math to have right now, and the fact he is also pushing heavy suspicion onto another person Ive already posted about my suspicions of. It could be a push to muddle up the day vote, and given his reemergence lately that doesn't seem to farfetched, however risky might be and however likely it would be to get him killed.

In short, im more inclined to believe suncat mafia than math, but i trust neither of them at this point.

[Solaris]

Personally, im leaning to suncat because sky is confident

Confident with no evidence to back up her claim.

*eats bread*

[rob77dp]

Personally, im leaning to suncat because sky is confident

Confident with no evidence to back up her claim.

*eats bread*

Sol - what about:

We are definitely lynching Solaris. I have reason to believe he does not have an item.

Will explain later.

Sure, did you steal from me? Explain now.

To clear yourself, it would be time-better-spent if you looked around and presented a strong case against another player as a wolf.  Keep in mind if it doesn't jive at least somewhat with my own list of reads then you're going to have to make it a VERY good case against that player since I'm confirmed Brotherhood and BH just managed to lynch our first IP (note: I am NOT taking credit or trying to prop myself up here... just that unconfirmed BH are going to tend to follow my lead as confirmed town given any equal-strength-or-lesser cases).

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[Solaris]

Personally, im leaning to suncat because sky is confident

Confident with no evidence to back up her claim.

*eats bread*

Sol - what about:

We are definitely lynching Solaris. I have reason to believe he does not have an item.

Will explain later.

Sure, did you steal from me? Explain now.

To clear yourself, it would be time-better-spent if you looked around and presented a strong case against another player as a wolf.  Keep in mind if it doesn't jive at least somewhat with my own list of reads then you're going to have to make it a VERY good case against that player since I'm confirmed Brotherhood and BH just managed to lynch our first IP (note: I am NOT taking credit or trying to prop myself up here... just that unconfirmed BH are going to tend to follow my lead as confirmed town given any equal-strength-or-lesser cases).

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uno momento por favor

damn this bread is delicious

[Zawadx]

Oh. I just haven't been able o pay any attention to this on top of rl and trials :/ Sorry. Will try to help out now, especially since your post provides a nice summary of stuff.

[Solaris]

Actually, I'd rather get these assignments out of the way. Expect a post from me after 5 PM EST.

BREAD

[rob77dp]

The nonkill last night could have been to draw players to lynch the afks. Its the only possible situation where the no kill could be held as mildly strategic. Beyond, i am uncertain. Even then it is a strange strange gambit by IP... Ill have my computer up in a few hours (minor technical issues) and ill be able to scum hunt more effectively, but it seems to me either math or suncat is mafia. Personally, im leaning to suncat because sky is confident, and i already had a bad vibe throughout the game about him. Though, its difficult to push out bias in this game, and he did vote on me along with a mafia...

That raises another point though, when the vote was close to a tie (cal just placed his single vote and everyone else was at 2) math agreed with cal and set it to a four way tie cal was sure to come out clean on We caught Cal, and he did this similar thing here, but both gave the solid at-the-time reason of "following confirmed Brotherhood rob"... which was true I did give that assessment of trying to tie votes but very few followed along without questioning it - questioning it, in the long run, was the town-play! :-/ Still, math was following confirmed-BH_rob's orders.. Thats a heavy burden for math to have right now, and the fact he is also pushing heavy suspicion onto another person Ive already posted about my suspicions of. It could be a push to muddle up the day vote, and given his reemergence lately that doesn't seem to farfetched, however risky might be and however likely it would be to get him killed.

In short, im more inclined to believe suncat mafia than math, but i trust neither of them at this point. I generally concur, but read math a lot lighter at the moment than you. But concurrence is RE: Sol.

kdz - any chance you could also include some review of kinky and Ginyu when you get to your computer?

[rob77dp]

Forgot to include the helpful statement: "My comments provided in orange."

[rob77dp]

I may not be back by the deadline, as it stands now, should I be NK'd, here is my current suggested/preferred lynch order/list:

Sol* > kinky > Zawadx

* kdz's logic holds for me -- if Sol isn't IP then math increases in likelihood of being IP (for my taste anyways)

Current game-state: 3 IP; 8 BH (-1 if IP performs NK tonight)

[Solaris]

Now or never!

I am Winston.

N1 Linkcat - Town - Dead
N2 worldwideweb3 - Town - Dead
N3 CleanOnion - Town - Dead
N4 Jenkar - Town - Dead
N5 Ginyu - Town - ALIVE
N6 dawn_to_dusk - ??? TBD

I apologize for not claiming earlier. I missed the deadline when rob initially suggested it, and feigned a reaction at "Winston" because I didn't want to out myself yet.


Any questions (I'd hope so), or are you guys still set on lynching me?

[skyironsword]

Questions? Just one. Why are you lying?