Elements Mafia 57 - by Naesala

[worldwideweb3]

RQS to get some discussion going.

Why did you decide to play this mafia? How many have you played before?
How do you react to people attacking you?
What will you be known for in this game?

[UTAlan]

Why did you decide to play this mafia? How many have you played before?
How do you react to people attacking you?
What will you be known for in this game?

* Because I like mafia and sign up for all of them. I don't recall. 10-15 probably. You're free to go look up the exact number.
* If I'm innocent, by trying to prove my innocence, or at least my value. If I'm guilty, by trying to lie my way out of it
* I probably won't. I would be I get NK'd N3-N5 and am not able to contribute much toward town outside of posting in the thread to keep up the conversation.

[killsdazombies]

RQS to get some discussion going.

Why did you decide to play this mafia? How many have you played before?
How do you react to people attacking you?
What will you be known for in this game?

1. To play as Sorin. Just finished my vampire commander, and I wanted to stay on the hype train. Like 25?
2. Prolly a vote and claim of innocence. Don't need anything else unless actual reasons are used against
3. harassing kuro for his role every day


Sidenote, I feel like just trying to act how I think my planeswalker would, so after today in relation to mafia, expect that. Or don't

[CrockettRocket]

RQS to get some discussion going.

Why did you decide to play this mafia? How many have you played before?
How do you react to people attacking you?
What will you be known for in this game?

It looks like a fun mafia set up. Ive played 7 or 8, hate this question btw cause I don't think anyone really keeps track of it. Should be "How many do you think you've played before" or "Whats an estimate amount of mafia games you've played so far" but meh. I react usually with a role claim, or by showing a bit of planning in civvies benefit that I've done this game. Hate this question as well as it's very scummy since you could easily ban wagon people earlier rather then later which is a form of "attack." Idk what I'll be known for, but I know I won't be known for single handedly giving mafia the win.

[CrockettRocket]

actually Ive missed 2 or 3 since mafia 38 and we're on mafia 57... so I've played 16-17 mafias? o.O Seems way too high...

[killsdazombies]

No Lynch [8] - Arum, kinkykitten624, CleanOnion, Espithel, Ginyu, Discord, mathman101, randomperson123
Espithel [1] - CrockettRocket
Arum [2] - MeowMeowCat, JonathanCrazyJ
Linkcat [1] - UTAlan
UTAlan [1] - Killsdazombies


Caged sun costs 6 mana, uta is the 6th player, seems only natural that nae wants us to kill uta


#RNGVotesGivenDumbLogic101

[Kuroaitou]

RQS to get some discussion going.

Why did you decide to play this mafia? How many have you played before?
How do you react to people attacking you?
What will you be known for in this game?

• Besides for 'posterity' reasons, playing mafia is fun and as FGO, I love how people spin their take on the mafia game. Personally, I'm terrible at understanding Magic since I wasn't a TCG person back in the early 2000's, but the characters and their roles this game certain made it more intriguing.
• It always differs every game, regardless of the side that I'm on, since it depends on who is attacking me, as well as how much evidence I have.
• For being a hot mess pre-game. X_x

No Lynch [8] - Arum, kinkykitten624, CleanOnion, Espithel, Ginyu, Discord, mathman101, randomperson123
Espithel [1] - CrockettRocket
Arum [2] - MeowMeowCat, JonathanCrazyJ
Linkcat [1] - UTAlan
UTAlan [1] - Killsdazombies
MeowMeowCat [1] - Kuroaitou

Randomized. Side note, I'm loving this new bracket annotation.

[Arum]

Why did you decide to play this mafia? How many have you played before?
How do you react to people attacking you?
What will you be known for in this game?

I have played two mafias previously, and I want to play more mafias.
People attacking me has already happened, and my reaction has been, "Whut. Why. It's day one."
I will be known for being the first to die. Yay.

On a side note, I would love to hear the reasoning why No Lynch on day one is bad. Perhaps a fallacy of some sort is getting in the way of my reasoning, but there is an ~80% chance that the random lynch will not be Mafia. If there is a random lynch, it is far more likely that a town member would be lynched. Congratulations, the Mafia are one step closer. If we do take out a Mafia member, what then? There will be three Mafia members remaining, and we will have to actively look at their posts or scumtells in order to figure out who they are. This also means the chance has risen of a town member being lynched. If we leave all four alive, it is more likely that one will slip up with a scumtell, or paired voting will occur, allowing us to take down two or three Mafia instead of simply one. Here's to hoping that those scumtells will happen first.

Or... it could be a possibility that you are directly encouraging this random lynch in order to bring your Mafia team closer to victory... Just a thought.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

a) Lynching is Towns power, NK is mafia's power. If we do nothing we are picked off.
b) if we no lynch, the game effectively starts on a night phase, which means mafia get to start the game, not us.
c) if the 1st death is caused by NK, there is a 100% chance the first kill is a civvy. If it starts on a lynch, there is a 20% chance of starting on a mafia kill.
   c1) even if the mafia member being targeted manages to convince town to change their mind and not lynch them, they will have had to talk A LOT, and possibly make a fake-claim. This promotes discussion, and in future days when they act strangely (considering the role they claim to be) it will be more scummy.
d) no-lynch promotes PASSIVE town play, something which mafia thrive on, because it means there will be less discussion, and more likely people will forget the game and forget to use their roles.

I have said all of these in previous mafias, and still don't understand why I lose this argument every single time

[killsdazombies]

Arum, he literally linked a huge thread discussing the exact thing you are asking for.


http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=4025162


Here, if you dont feel like reading or looking for it

[Arum]

Thank you.

That is definitely interesting. Instead of looking at it from 80% of killing a town member, you should look at it as 20% chance of killing Mafia versus a 0% chance and a 100% chance of a town member night kill.

To rephrase what one member on that board said,

"Town members can kill Mafia, Mafia kills can't."

No Lynch [7] - kinkykitten624, CleanOnion, Espithel, Ginyu, Discord, mathman101, randomperson123
Espithel [1] - CrockettRocket
Arum [2] - MeowMeowCat, JonathanCrazyJ
Linkcat [1] - UTAlan
UTAlan [2] - Killsdazombies, Arum
MeowMeowCat [1] - Kuroaitou

[UTAlan]

Welp. I guess it's time to join the train that isn't me.

No Lynch [7] - kinkykitten624, CleanOnion, Espithel, Ginyu, Discord, mathman101, randomperson123
Espithel [1] - CrockettRocket
Arum [3] - MeowMeowCat, JonathanCrazyJ, UTAlan
UTAlan [2] - Killsdazombies, Arum
MeowMeowCat [1] - Kuroaitou