Elements Mafia 57 - by Naesala

[Linkcat]

Spoiler for RQS:

Why did you decide to play this mafia? How many have you played before?
How do you react to people attacking you?
What will you be known for in this game?

Muhfia.
11.
I counter their reasoning.
Either that guy who found the mafia, or that guy who died in the first three nights.

Lynching someone with no reasoning is just going to kill a town for nothing, possibly with an important role. Lynching is only worth it if you have reason to believe a player is mafia, or if lynching a player will give you information that will help you find the mafia. This usually doesn't happen until Day 2 or 3 on this forum due to the limited discussion. Sub's new RQS system seemed to help last mafia, so I'm going to try it this time.

SubRQS

Kuroaitou
dawn to dusk

What are your thoughts on Arum's play so far, and the votes that people have cast on him?

[dawn to dusk]

Arum is a lot less defensive, although that would probably just be because there aren't many votes on him compared to the no lynch train. He is playing a lot more passively, and this is probably because he was outed last game for being obvious, thus is playing a passive game. This is probably subject to change within the next few days, as playstyles become more prevalent. The sudden change is no indication on whether he is mafia or town since at this stage, the change could be because he plays different as town than as mafia, or because he is mafia again and doesn't want to make the same mistake.

Regarding the votes on him, he had 1 vote on him which indicates nothing, then another vote was added for RNG, now bloodthirsty people are wagoning him. Not an indication of much as of yet, though may provide useful information in the days to come.

[worldwideweb3]

No Lynch [8] - CleanOnion, Espithel, Ginyu, Discord, mathman101, randomperson123, Arum, RootRanger
Espithel [1] - CrockettRocket
Arum [4] - MeowMeowCat, JonathanCrazyJ, UTAlan, killsdazombies
MeowMeowCat [1] - Kuroaitou
killsdazombies [2] - kinkykitten624, worldwideweb3


Voting on person who looked the most scummy till now. Gotta follow the instinct.

[CleanOnion]

No Lynch [7] - Espithel, Ginyu, Discord, mathman101, randomperson123, Arum, RootRanger
Espithel [1] - CrockettRocket
Arum [4] - MeowMeowCat, JonathanCrazyJ, UTAlan, killsdazombies, CleanOnion
MeowMeowCat [1] - Kuroaitou
killsdazombies [2] - kinkykitten624, worldwideweb3

What JCJ said.

[CleanOnion]

No Lynch [7] - Espithel, Ginyu, Discord, mathman101, randomperson123, Arum, RootRanger
Espithel [1] - CrockettRocket
Arum [5] - MeowMeowCat, JonathanCrazyJ, UTAlan, killsdazombies, CleanOnion
MeowMeowCat [1] - Kuroaitou
killsdazombies [2] - kinkykitten624, worldwideweb3

Forgot to increment the vote value. Woops.

[Naesala]

Spoiler for Lore:

After several hours of arguing, the planeswalkers, those who were there anyways, decided none shall be sacrificed. Sure, there were accusations that some ought to give their life, or that others didn't deserve to live, but ultimately a few voices convinced the group towards peace. Unfortunately, when the figure who brought them there approached and asked for a sacrifice, finding none, growled and raised his fist. "You do not understand the severity of that which approached even now. Very well. I submit you all to the black sun, and shall restore the white sun shortly." With that the sky grew dark, clouding everyone's image...and returning their powers.

Night 1

The planeswalkers have decided that noone shall be sacrificed on day one.

[Naesala]

Spoiler for Lore:

When I get back from town, honest.

Day 2

Arum has died. He was Venser.

Mathman101 has used Cruel Ultimatum to reveal himself as Nicol Bolas! He must be lynched this day or he gains Nightkill immunity and mafia gets an extra night kill tonight.

[UTAlan]

While Arum works that out, I have a question for the group. If we don't lynch mathman (who could be mafia or town), he becomes immune to NK and mafia gets 2 NK on the next night. Do we have any motivation whatsoever to not lynch him?

[mathman101]

What I ask is that Nahiri target me tonight, please confirm that I am civy for everyone. If it comes up as mafia then so be it, but I only targeted myself to guarantee I hit a confirmed civy that I knew of.

While Arum works that out, I have a question for the group. If we don't lynch mathman (who could be mafia or town), he becomes immune to NK and mafia gets 2 NK on the next night. Do we have any motivation whatsoever to not lynch him?

You can still lynch me tomorrow or any day after if you believe I am mafia, but only mafia lose the ability to nightkill me from now on.

[Espithel]

[snip]

-snip-
FAQ:
Q: Can Narset talk on her voting post? Do EBWOPs count?
A: Narset cannot talk beyond placing her vote. She may change her vote and EBWOP to correct her vote.
Q: Is nightkill an ability?
A: No.
Q. Can Karn start as Mafia?
A. Yes, this renders his ability pointless.
-snip-

This should explain it.

Moderator Comment

Offending quote removed. Restating Q&A still fine.

[UTAlan]

You can still lynch me tomorrow or any day after if you believe I am mafia, but only mafia lose the ability to nightkill me from now on.

Except mafia still gets an extra NK if we don't lynch you.

[Solaris]

killsdazombies [1] - MeowMeowCat

Tentative vote until we iron out this situation.