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Re: Elements Mafia 55 - by Coffeeditto https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60865.msg1220429#msg1220429
« Reply #180 on: January 17, 2016, 05:30:09 am »
I don't actually know, but I think they had Veigar claim Annie to bait me into having them vote on each other to guarantee a mafia lynch so that Katarina could kill me tonight. Unfortunately I guessed wrong so she'll kill me anyway.

I obviously didn't post the fourth mafia member because I have no idea who it is.

If you actually consider taking that claim seriously then I have no faith in you.

Just tell me how you can be sure which is katarina and which is veigar and I'll drop it entirely.

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Re: Elements Mafia 55 - by Coffeeditto https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60865.msg1220430#msg1220430
« Reply #181 on: January 17, 2016, 05:39:08 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia 55 - by Coffeeditto https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60865.msg1220431#msg1220431
« Reply #182 on: January 17, 2016, 05:42:09 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia 55 - by Coffeeditto https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60865.msg1220439#msg1220439
« Reply #183 on: January 17, 2016, 09:04:25 am »
MMC's claim is insane because if he actually was Zillian, then he just watched as all of our roles were sent to a mafia. Even after my safety countdown in which i said "counterclaim or mafia win."
Soon after the mass roleclaim Linkcat was asking me if i could work out why mafia would claim Rengar and Annie.
Good work Link, 3 mafia lynches incoming.
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Re: Elements Mafia 55 - by Coffeeditto https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60865.msg1220444#msg1220444
« Reply #184 on: January 17, 2016, 11:59:00 am »
If this is true, please explain why you didn't claim until now (instead, letting us all role-claim to mafia and essentially hand the game over to them).
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Re: Elements Mafia 55 - by Coffeeditto https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60865.msg1220445#msg1220445
« Reply #185 on: January 17, 2016, 12:01:06 pm »
If the first person lynched isnt a red, then simply lynch link, as hes ensuring us that they're red and knows their roles too!
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Re: Elements Mafia 55 - by Coffeeditto https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60865.msg1220571#msg1220571
« Reply #186 on: January 19, 2016, 03:56:27 pm »
If MMC was Jinx, why in the world would he send a PM to claim that role to ZILLIAN, the most essential role to the civvies? No offense, but you'd have to be plain stupid to believe that someone as smart as MMC wouldn't be able to figure out how bad of an idea that is.
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Re: Elements Mafia 55 - by Coffeeditto https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60865.msg1220572#msg1220572
« Reply #187 on: January 19, 2016, 03:59:39 pm »
He might not have, it might have been process of elimination. The mass roleclaim essentially trapped everyone into sending either their own role, or a fake role which would show up as a double, which also looks incriminating.
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Re: Elements Mafia 55 - by Coffeeditto https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60865.msg1220573#msg1220573
« Reply #188 on: January 19, 2016, 04:01:48 pm »
EBWOP: Also, he had no way of knowing that Lux's ability would be triggered, meaning the SAFEST thing to do would be to send his real role.
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Re: Elements Mafia 55 - by Coffeeditto https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60865.msg1220574#msg1220574
« Reply #189 on: January 19, 2016, 04:06:23 pm »
I'm honestly not buying the whole Linkcat=Zillian thing to be honest. If he was honestly a civvy, I think he would at least be playing this as a team game, not a follow the leader one.
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Re: Elements Mafia 55 - by Coffeeditto https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60865.msg1220578#msg1220578
« Reply #190 on: January 19, 2016, 04:33:59 pm »
I'm honestly not buying the whole Linkcat=Zillian thing to be honest. If he was honestly a civvy, I think he would at least be playing this as a team game, not a follow the leader one.


Well, luckily for us the answer will be revealed tomorrow when we kill someone on that list, correct?

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Re: Elements Mafia 55 - by Coffeeditto https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60865.msg1220579#msg1220579
« Reply #191 on: January 19, 2016, 04:39:33 pm »
That makes no sense. Mafia is always follow the leader if you have a plan.

Plan >
Civvy Central >
Follow the plans of the civvy central >
Win.

Playing it as a "team game" just gives mafia information that you don't  want them to have.

Also, you could argue we played a team game.
Submachine thought up a plan.
Linkcat had the important role.
I made sure that NOBODY sent roles to linkcat unless nobody counterclaimed him.

IMMEDIATELY after we sent Linkcat our roles, he orchestrated the voting so that Lux's ability would trigger. This confirms him.
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