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Re: Elements Mafia 54 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60543.msg1218258#msg1218258
« Reply #204 on: December 19, 2015, 01:27:01 am »
I really do not like this sudden culture of wanting to prove RNG.


same. I think its against the spirit of mafia, and frankly I find it to be rule bending. But thats not my call to make.

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Re: Elements Mafia 54 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60543.msg1218259#msg1218259
« Reply #205 on: December 19, 2015, 01:27:37 am »
That comes across as very suspicious, as you are choosing to lynch a certain person but not an rng person, without having any suspicions.
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Re: Elements Mafia 54 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60543.msg1218260#msg1218260
« Reply #206 on: December 19, 2015, 01:34:45 am »
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Note that truly random voting, as with the dice tag, is strictly frowned upon. A vote that is demonstrably random carries no motivation to be read into, and is completely informationless. This is not the intent of the "random voting stage".

I agree with kills, it's totally against the spirit of the game. If we were playing irl, and someone rolled a die, or used any other random method to pick their vote, they'd get lynched for not actually caring about the game, and probably wouldn't be invited to play anymore that night. There's no reason it should be allowed here, let alone encouraged.
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Re: Elements Mafia 54 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60543.msg1218261#msg1218261
« Reply #207 on: December 19, 2015, 01:51:37 am »
Also if you think it's suspicious, start a lynch on me, that's what it's for.
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Re: Elements Mafia 54 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60543.msg1218263#msg1218263
« Reply #208 on: December 19, 2015, 02:10:10 am »
While I agree that just throwing out a truly random vote is meaningless, if someone believes that a random lynch is beneficial to town, which I completely disagree with, there's no reason they shouldn't be able to prove that the lynch is indeed random.

I don't like the way you've been playing this game, but I haven't had a reason to vote on you until now. Putting a vote in the way that you did on somebody who's not likely to defend herself is suspicious to me. Still not a strong case but it's all I've got.
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Re: Elements Mafia 54 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60543.msg1218264#msg1218264
« Reply #209 on: December 19, 2015, 02:10:48 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia 54 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60543.msg1218265#msg1218265
« Reply #210 on: December 19, 2015, 02:51:39 am »
What about my play this game do you dislike?
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Re: Elements Mafia 54 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60543.msg1218269#msg1218269
« Reply #211 on: December 19, 2015, 03:33:49 am »
I don't have anything specific. I just get a mafia vibe from you. You might call it a hunch.
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Re: Elements Mafia 54 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60543.msg1218270#msg1218270
« Reply #212 on: December 19, 2015, 03:42:18 am »
Also if you think it's suspicious, start a lynch on me, that's what it's for.

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Re: Elements Mafia 54 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60543.msg1218271#msg1218271
« Reply #213 on: December 19, 2015, 04:09:19 am »
You say you don't like the way I've been playing. That's not a hunch, there has to be reasoning behind that or it's an empty statement. You're grasping at straws.

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Re: Elements Mafia 54 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60543.msg1218273#msg1218273
« Reply #214 on: December 19, 2015, 04:27:16 am »
A hunch has no reasoning by definition. That part was a joke anyways. I am not grasping at straws, I already stated that that wasn't enough reason to vote on you. I am voting on you specifically because of your vote on Discord. Also, saying to lynch me if you die just because I voted on you is terrible play.
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Re: Elements Mafia 54 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60543.msg1218274#msg1218274
« Reply #215 on: December 19, 2015, 04:44:50 am »
My vote on Discord is exactly the same as www3's vote on Root, except it wouldn't be illegal in most environments.

And no, I want you lynched if I die because your logic is filled with holes, your actions feel inconsistent, and I would not be at surprised if you were mafia taking advantage of a situation to push scumtells on me and get me lynched safely.
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