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Re: Elements Mafia 51 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59311.msg1204892#msg1204892
« Reply #180 on: September 11, 2015, 12:56:55 am »


You know, if gino was a civvie herbalist, why on earth would he be throwing his role away and joking about it? Bad play? Yeah... no.
Bad play? Why can this not be the case?  I am sure a review of nearly every mafia on this forum would show each version had no less than one (usually a lot more I'd guess) mistake/error/bad play.
As for myself, Gino is 99% likely to be Herbalist (goes beyond just his simple forum claim) which then means not mafia which means I will view how other players treat Gino (while he survives) through such a lens.


Yes, bad play occurs, but I don't expect it from gino (Whom I've seen in chat to be pretty mature). So in my eyes, him becoming touchy regarding the entire subject and disregarding shadow wolf seemed like Mafia fakeclaim (the exact thing Linkcat did day 2 in last mafia, remember? That's why he was trying to push gino).

There also remains my suspicion that bard was in play, especially considering only one person removed their vote from gino (unless it had been removed and there had been a bard on there, gino would've been saved as mafia).

So tbh guys, don't lose you calm if confronted with a lynch train. I sound like a hypocrite perhaps, but I can't stress enough the importance of preserving your role if you are good for town. At least give those of us with shitty roles something to root for :/
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Re: Elements Mafia 51 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59311.msg1204896#msg1204896
« Reply #181 on: September 11, 2015, 01:35:48 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia 51 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59311.msg1204901#msg1204901
« Reply #182 on: September 11, 2015, 02:49:41 am »
Well, it looks like this is my death message and so i say unto town this, I am sorry for the misplay that lead to my death and that town has lost its best protective role. Have a good one and i hope my mistake doesn't set the tone for this mafia.

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Re: Elements Mafia 51 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59311.msg1204905#msg1204905
« Reply #183 on: September 11, 2015, 05:33:51 am »
In no way, shape, or form did I ever communicate to Gino that he should give even a hint of his role to anybody.  Your reason for lynching me is completely false. Please confirm this with him. If he disagrees, I can show him the chat logs.
Alright, let's go with you did not tell Gino to claim.  Part of my point remains, that being the forcefulness of your tactics to get votes onto Gino leaves me suspicious.  My reason for lynching you may be somewhat suspect but stating it as completely false is over the top.

I pushed to get votes onto Gino because there were 15 votes, and not a single one had a reason stronger than a feeling. We were almost certain to lynch a town, and I wanted to make sure that my lynch went through. I pushed especially hard on you because I wanted to see how reluctant you would be to vote on him if he turned out to be mafia.



If you are the Herbalist, please message me, or we will take the lynch off of Gino.
Do not make a public counterclaim.
Do not tell me you are the Herbalist if you are not the Herbalist.
If there are suggestions for a different lynch target, now is the time.
THIS is a request by you (Linkcat) for information that I do not know how could help village or you unless you are mafia (this is NOT stating any certainty about you being mafia, just a matter of this being mafia-like in my view).

Gino claims Herbalist. There is only one Herbalist, and they are town. I asked this to determine if Gino was the Herbalist. If he was the Herbalist, then I would not receive a pm and we would lynch someone else. If he wasn't the Herbalist, then the real Herbalist would know that Gino is mafia and would have to let town know, or we would let a mafia go free. I thought you understood this when we talked about it in chat, so I'm not sure why you're calling me mafia for it now.



Erm, If link was mafia, then asking for a PRIVATE claim of herbalist AFTER someone had claimed herbalist is completely pointless. Unless both him AND godisnowonline are mafia, in which case that's an insane early gambit, and just wouldn't happen.

-snip part directed at elk-

My vote stays where it is for now, though I like that rob is trying to think of a plan. :)
By asking for this sort of claim, Link can then be more sure that Gino is truly Herbalist if no other claims come in - which if Link can be convincing would not come in.  If they do come in, then mafia has a short-list of who might be Herbalist, possibly.

If I was mafia, I would have no reason to doubt Gino's claim. I don't understand the rest after the dash.

At least, we now have an almost confirmed civvy with rob

This is absolutely not true. I don't even think he should be seen as favorably town. He's neutral to me. Trying to save Gino doesn't mean anything because he was a dead man the moment he claimed. Rob's plan included lynching someone else and redirecting the Shadow Wolf with Disguise, most likely giving the mafia two free kills. This is why I didn't reverse the lynch once I knew Gino was probably the Herbalist. I would have lynched anyone else if anyone had brought up any legitimate suspicions, but nobody did.

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Re: Elements Mafia 51 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59311.msg1204910#msg1204910
« Reply #184 on: September 11, 2015, 06:46:17 am »
Sorry Link but how things have gone thus far I must now distance myself from you.

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Re: Elements Mafia 51 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59311.msg1204913#msg1204913
« Reply #185 on: September 11, 2015, 07:14:31 am »
Sorry Link but how things have gone thus far I must now distance myself from you.

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And to be clear, what I mean is while I still feel Link is possibly mafia I have no evidence to state he is mafia or town.  The 'distance myself' simply means he's back in my 'neutral column' along with pretty much everyone else now.

/have I posted enough in here yet that it holds no weight anymore? ?_?
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Re: Elements Mafia 51 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59311.msg1205108#msg1205108
« Reply #186 on: September 12, 2015, 06:03:34 am »
Aight I'm in the game now! Ive read up on everything, and after doing so, gotta say I'm rather happy I just voted on UTA and left haha.
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Re: Elements Mafia 51 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59311.msg1205164#msg1205164
« Reply #187 on: September 12, 2015, 04:22:46 pm »
Chapter 3: Confined Revenge

:death :death JonathanCrazyJ died by a Wolfbite last night. :death :death
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Re: Elements Mafia 51 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59311.msg1205166#msg1205166
« Reply #188 on: September 12, 2015, 04:39:12 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 51 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59311.msg1205167#msg1205167
« Reply #189 on: September 12, 2015, 04:44:23 pm »
Oh JCJ, you lovely Courtesan! How could you die? :'-(
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Re: Elements Mafia 51 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59311.msg1205186#msg1205186
« Reply #190 on: September 12, 2015, 05:34:31 pm »
Well, this was rather swift, didn't expect to get one so early :D Zawadx is Werewolf/Trapmaker. You guys know what to do.

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Re: Elements Mafia 51 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59311.msg1205188#msg1205188
« Reply #191 on: September 12, 2015, 05:41:01 pm »
Ok then, add my vote on Zawadx

 

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