Elements Mafia 51 - by Submachine

[dawn to dusk]

I have been traveling a lot in the recent few days, there are several other people who haven't contributed at all either.  We really shouldn't lynch without reason.
 Thanks Crockett!!!

Agreed, but because you can respond to this so fast why couldnt you before? "Traveling" as an excuse is just awfully convenient compared to now. And you don't usually contribute too much in mafias from my perspective for town, so if we lose you it doesn't seem all that harmful if you flip town. If you don't like it, go ahead and throw a retaliation vote. I'm just trying to get the ball rolling.

being afk doesnt really seem scummy to me, savvy hasnt been in chat all that much (afaik), and its probably just luck that she was able to come online now. people who were on chat when she said she was going away for a bit can confirm this, as can physs (assuming he's alive).

sort of thanks to the criers lol, i think this rules out the possibility of merchant being the swing vote, unless they invested points into voting power. this seems more likely if they are mafia to do this than town, since mafia votes to kill, while town votes to survive (this seems oblique as hell, ill expand on it if wanted but anyway) (this segment is disregarding votes from bards. if a mixture of abilities were used, this becomes a different story). if this is the case, ginyu is definitely not mafia. now, while i would like for both merchants to claim, i know thats not going to happen cos im shady as hell.

maths time!!! (cos ves'cer said so)
4 votes on ginyu, 3 on ian.
bard made it 6 - 3 in favour of ginyu being lynched. if the other bard had max stacks (which, at the time, was 3.5), that would make it 6 - 5.5 with ian needing another vote to be lynched. this is where i suspect moonwolf to come into play.

so assuming we can not come to a unanimous decision, i would like for all people who voted for ginyu last round to abstain from voting unless told otherwise, especially so for the bard. we cant have 2.5 votes tossed around.

if people would like my bullshit analysis and list reads, feel free to ask

[mathman101]

Savvy(2) - CrockettRocket , mathman101


not really sure on who to vote so mainly posting here to avoid modkill because I probably won't be able to make it back online before the day ends.  (sorry Savvy)

[eljoemo]

Dawn, you're forgetting that the merchants (both of whom have made a sale) can have +1 vote power. Still, seeing as I voted on Ginyu I'll not vote until someone says so.

Not sure about lynching savvy. His personal reasons are excusable but his fast response is suspicious. I suppose it depends on how much you're willing to trust coincidence.

[CrockettRocket]

Dawn I don't think players are going to roll over and let themselves get hit by a bus to follow your plan, instead they're gonna vote to avoid mod kill :p

[dawn to dusk]

Dawn I don't think players are going to roll over and let themselves get hit by a bus to follow your plan, instead they're gonna vote to avoid mod kill :p

if they voted yesterday, then there is no chance they will be modkilled now is there

Dawn, you're forgetting that the merchants (both of whom have made a sale) can have +1 vote power. Still, seeing as I voted on Ginyu I'll not vote until someone says so.

Not sure about lynching savvy. His personal reasons are excusable but his fast response is suspicious. I suppose it depends on how much you're willing to trust coincidence.

more of a hindsight note, if merchant did vote on ian, they were 100% not ginyu. remember that merchant must give themselves a role night 0. other merchants could mean something different. but yeah, im not forgetting anything here except the chance that a different player on the ian train could be merchant
merchant has 2 abilities not 1 anyway, so ill go back and check the previous crier targets and see (assuming ive understood it correctly)

and about savvy, i would rather lynch someone who looks scum rather than savvy who is mostly null, however meh

3 scum left vs 11 town. we will survive 4 more days assuming we dont kill any scum. so yea, shall we see who the top 4 scummy people are on people's list and see if there are any overlaps we can kill?

[worldwideweb3]

Savvy(3) - CrockettRocket ,  mathman101, worldwideweb3


not really sure on who to vote so mainly posting here to avoid modkill. I'll try and come near the deadline and will change if there's any evidence.

[Submachine]

Night 7 commences!

savvy14112 died today.
She was a Human Witch Doctor and also a Courtesan.

Physsion died of starvation.
He was a Human Merchant and also a Witch Doctor and the Mayor. His Stash of Gold was stolen by stray leprechauns.

theelkspeaks died of fatigue.
He was a Werewolf Bard. He also had the Town Guard's badge which was claimed by noone so it was buried with the body.


A third Mayor has been instantly elected!
(reminder: you can change your Mayor votes at any time, just make sure they are always up-to-date.)

The following people need to vote next day to avoid modkill:
dawn to dusk
Kuroaitou
MeowMeowCat
Espithel
Ginyu
Discord
eljoemo
RavingRabbid

If 7 people post that they need faster gameplay, I am willing to lower the waiting time between phases from 48 to 36 hours.
Currently only 2 people replied back for this.

On the blackboard of Central Village, the following notes were written:

Spoiler for Not a Werewolf:

Great news town! I've just received a new shipment of supplies (by which I mean abilities of course). Please let me know if you would like to arrange a transaction.

Time left until the next day:
No time left!

[Submachine]

I might point out again the possibility of sending in future votes for the entire game, because that helps a lot. (3 modkills, really? :/)

Players are allowed to send in their future votes and night actions AT ANY TIME. Players are also allowed to send in conditional votes and action uses to the host, but only if the conditions are valid. Note that only the last message counts, so you can change your intentions as long as you are still before deadline.

About conditional votes, players can also send in this message for example and it will be counted valid:

I vote on the person with the most people voting on them in all the following future days.
If there are ties, I vote on the person who's earlier/latter in the alphabet.

Because it was so easy to avoid any modkill, I'm relentless about it.

EDIT: Probably it's not the most fortunate that this mafia started parallel with War. ^^" Almost all players are involved in War too.

[Solaris]

Well, that was eventful. Now we have no Witch Doctor's, but on the plus side we got a Werewolf. Yay.

[Zyardran]

So many people died! D:

[CrockettRocket]

So many people died! D:

This is kind of interesting. No side is happy about this, at least I dont think. Maybe it helps civvies more then mafia but now we have extincted an entire role for us to try to strategize with. It'll definitely be interesting to see how these mod kills have/will impact the game at the end for highlights.

[Espithel]

I could do with a senpai so badly right now