Elements Mafia 51 - by Submachine

[JonathanCrazyJ]

Erm, If link was mafia, then asking for a PRIVATE claim of herbalist AFTER someone had claimed herbalist is completely pointless. Unless both him AND godisnowonline are mafia, in which case that's an insane early gambit, and just wouldn't happen.

Mafia wouldn't be able to fake claim Herbalist this mafia because they did last time and failed, except that means we assume anyone who claims it must be town, which in turn means that they can do it safely.  JCJ could be trying to set us up to miss a play like that.

Hi elk, can you... explain this? I don't understand what you mean at all? All I have done is go with Linkcat's logic, which is, imo, the best logic so far. I don't understand what you mean after the first sentence :s

My vote stays where it is for now, though I like that rob is trying to think of a plan.

[Zawadx]

You know, if gino was a civvie herbalist, why on earth would he be throwing his role away and joking about it? Bad play? Yeah... no.

[iancudorinmarian]

 
War means Mafia in tis case.

[rob77dp]

In no way, shape, or form did I ever communicate to Gino that he should give even a hint of his role to anybody.  Your reason for lynching me is completely false. Please confirm this with him. If he disagrees, I can show him the chat logs.

Alright, let's go with you did not tell Gino to claim.  Part of my point remains, that being the forcefulness of your tactics to get votes onto Gino leaves me suspicious.  My reason for lynching you may be somewhat suspect but stating it as completely false is over the top.

If you are the Herbalist, please message me, or we will take the lynch off of Gino.
Do not make a public counterclaim.
Do not tell me you are the Herbalist if you are not the Herbalist.
If there are suggestions for a different lynch target, now is the time.

THIS is a request by you (Linkcat) for information that I do not know how could help village or you unless you are mafia (this is NOT stating any certainty about you being mafia, just a matter of this being mafia-like in my view).

Erm, If link was mafia, then asking for a PRIVATE claim of herbalist AFTER someone had claimed herbalist is completely pointless. Unless both him AND godisnowonline are mafia, in which case that's an insane early gambit, and just wouldn't happen.

-snip part directed at elk-

My vote stays where it is for now, though I like that rob is trying to think of a plan.

By asking for this sort of claim, Link can then be more sure that Gino is truly Herbalist if no other claims come in - which if Link can be convincing would not come in.  If they do come in, then mafia has a short-list of who might be Herbalist, possibly.

You know, if gino was a civvie herbalist, why on earth would he be throwing his role away and joking about it? Bad play? Yeah... no.

Bad play? Why can this not be the case?  I am sure a review of nearly every mafia on this forum would show each version had no less than one (usually a lot more I'd guess) mistake/error/bad play.
As for myself, Gino is 99% likely to be Herbalist (goes beyond just his simple forum claim) which then means not mafia which means I will view how other players treat Gino (while he survives) through such a lens.

Caveat: it is still VERY early in the game so 100% known or confirmed information is very sparse.  I would not categorize anything I have stated above as 100% for sure.

[Submachine]

Night 2 commences!

godisnowonline died today.
He was a Human Herbalist.

The following people need to vote next day to avoid modkill:
worldwideweb3
MeowMeowCat
CrockettRocket
Physsion

Undertakers can only use all of skyironsword's abilities tonight. Godisnowonline's OR tonight's victim's skills can only be used the next night.

On the blackboard of Central Village, the following notes were written:

Spoiler for Yeri:

Everybody loves a good joke:
Knock. Knock.

Spoiler for JonathanCrazySwag:

Aww, nothing? They don't really let me make the big decisions, so this is kind of the only thing I get to do... Anyways, as you can see we killed a Witch Doctor. We can't really have you reviving people after we kill them, can we?

Spoiler for Not A Werewolf:

It appears the only person to accept my offer has come under some scrutiny of late. As an honest business person, I cannot be seen trading with a potential werewolf now can I? So if anyone else is interested in getting a brand new ability, totally free of charge, just let me know by sunrise.

LORE for Chapter 2 will come here later.

Time left until the next day:
No time left!

[Submachine]

A blue wind blows through the cold night. A message from the Witch Doctor is delivered by this rare occurence of nature:

This is a dream, it is only a dream... but dreams are often manifestations of reality.  This apparition of Witch Doctor skyironsword brings a request from the villager underground:

Sir, Mr. First Mayor, we the concerned citizens reach out to you in this dream... Godisnowonline has questions and requests a 'reputable' visit from you on your earliest convenience.  Do not delay, the fate of our village is in your hands.

*Edit 1 [september 10, 16:30 GMT]: Added formatting. Didn't touch the message.

[Ginyu]

So, gino was really honest about that. :/

At least, we now have an almost confirmed civvy with rob and are basically save from the Shadow Wolf.

[rob77dp]

*sigh*

What to do what to do, now?

[iancudorinmarian]

*sigh*

What to do what to do, now?

See my last post.

[AD TienzuStorm]

Question: will a player's fake name be revealed upon death?

[Submachine]

Question: will a player's fake name be revealed upon death?

No, secret nicknames won't be revealed upon death.

[Submachine]

ORGANIZER NOTE:

Finally added Role-Action priority in the OP. You can also check here:

Spoiler for Ability Order Guidelines:

Instead of role priority, I use Ability Order Guidelines to decide who goes first:

• Protection always goes before Wolfbite.
• Summoning is unstoppable, but abilities that can interact with either the Shadow Wolf or the summoner come before it.
• Disguise comes before everything else, unless the Tailor gets interrupted or redirected.
• Grave digging is passive, it always activates.
• Sleep Talking, Spirit Haunt and Bard Song can only be blocked by Light person.
• Noble Manor protects from any targeting, even interruption.
• Wolfbites can be blocked by roles that were designed to block it.
• Hide/Follow works for the other Disguised person if they target the target of the Tailor.
• Noble Manor, Luxury and invited people can ignore Pyromaniac completely.
• Town Crier always activates last, so it posts up-to-date information every morning.
• Secret messages cannot be interrupted in any way.
• Skills not interrupted by nightkill: Merchant, Witch Doctor, Yield, protection, redirection, Trapmaker.
• Skills interrupted by nightkill: investigation, direct interruption, Town Crier, Grave Digging, Moonwolf.