Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou

[Ginyu]

Rutarete (2) - Submachine, Ginyu
Ginyu (0)
Roll 1d2 to decide (0)
Kill both (4) - RootRanger, mathman101, jonathancrazyj, UTAlan

Not sure if that counts, but as Roots one does with his official goal that killing anyone but him is fine - no matter what primary - I guess that's okay.

[Submachine]

Welp, the former members mentioned at one point that they trust Ruta less, so I'll try a double-or nothing with targeting Ruta and not targeting Ginyu. If I add the former member's votes to the tally and remove refugee votes, we'll get kill Ruta anyway.

If you hardly disagree with me, please flood the thread with rejections. (the ones in PM won't count)
I'll look back here before the deadline and if I see that I shouldn't kill only one or i'm targeting the wrong person, I'll do back

[RootRanger]

Ffs Sub, you can't just remove the refugee votes. We're a part of the game just as much as you are. And if the civs consider me disposable, then I'll side with mafia.

[godisnowonline]

The goal of the refugees is to remain alive. Right now it seems like civvie central is confused and we are going to go with a more risky maneuver. Its not that you are disposable root. It's more that at this point we have too many refugees. Because we now have a mafia claiming a refugee we are now in considerably more danger of giving the game to the mafia. To be honest any role with extra voting power ought to be lynched for the simplicity of preventing over voting by mafia. As im really confused is ruta up 5 voting power?

[Submachine]

I especially wanted to remove Root's vote, because i remember from chat and maybe from this thread too, that your only goal was that more people die, and you don't care about town's future. If you are that way, then it's only fair if i don't count your vote. I wrote 'refugees' so Root can feel less insulted, but that's not the case. It was all directed to get rid of Root's vote.

[UTAlan]

Wait. So I was talked out of killing just one because the game would be lost if we only kill one and are wrong. And now you're switching back? You fully convinced me and I completely disagree with this plan. I don't want you throwing this game away for town because of a hunch. If we kill both Ruta and Ginyu, the game is not lost. We are certain to have a chance to win. If we only kill Ruta and he's civvy, game over.

To be honest any role with extra voting power ought to be lynched for the simplicity of preventing over voting by mafia. As im really confused is ruta up 5 voting power?

1. So we should kill Ginyu, yes?
2. No. If I understand correctly, Rehab Expert says that Ruta gave a pill recently, which means someone else has 5 voting power and total. Can someone else confirm this?

[Submachine]

Thread checked. 2 objections, fair enough. Targeting both Ginyu and Rutarete then.

1. So we should kill Ginyu, yes?
2. No. If I understand correctly, Rehab Expert says that Ruta gave a pill recently, which means someone else has 5 voting power and total. Can someone else confirm this?

1. Now we will. ^^"
2. Not yet, but if we keep the Pharm alive and the Pharm is mafia, then we can expect a pill to be sent to an unknown person, and the voting would be dangerous that way.

[Ginyu]

To be honest any role with extra voting power ought to be lynched for the simplicity of preventing over voting by mafia. As im really confused is ruta up 5 voting power?

1. So we should kill Ginyu, yes?

Yes, kill me. Kill me with my voting power of 2. Not Root with his -2 Voting Total and unknown extra voting power. Root ist also soo much less suspicious with his weird behaviour, confirmed lies and so on. Yeah, I am definitely the better target.

[RootRanger]

My reasons for lying have already been explained. As a Refugee, it was safest for no one to know my identity.

Furthermore, if Rutarete is Civ and we kill him, we lose, unless we kill you as well.

[Kuroaitou]

Spoiler for Lore:

...*crickets chirping, general night ambience*...

...*sound of footsteps, walking pace, heavy boots*...

...*second set of footsteps match up with first, sound of pill bottle being rattled*...

...*metal object hitting rock/cement, echoes throughout area*...

...*sudden gasp*...

...*BANG BANG*...

...*BANG*...

...*panting and sounds of two different sets of footsteps - one heavier sounding than the other*

...*sound of a chain fence rattling in the distance, someone climbing over*...

...*car door opening and slamming shut*...

...*ignition turned on, motor revved quickly*...

...*tire screech*...

...*sounds of heavy breathing nearby*...

...*panting ceases, nighttime ambience resumes momentarily*...

..."OH SHI-"...

...*ssssssssllllllllllliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiicccccccccccccccccceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*...

...*body collapse*...

...*sounds of slow exhaling*...

Silence.

Day 9
Time is now over.

Rutarete was assasinated. He was a Pharmacist Criminal.

Ginyu was assasinated. He was a Metal Wielder Vigilante.

mathman101 was killed. He was a Hitman Refugee.

The following players MUST post within the following Day/Night cycle, or they will be modkilled/removed. (Note that they do not need to vote; they must simply post in this topic to be considered active)
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[Submachine]

UTAlan (1) - Submachine

quick placeholder to avoid mafia voting first

[UTAlan]

Aknelo (1) - UTAlan