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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1201300#msg1201300
« Reply #516 on: August 17, 2015, 03:28:14 am »
Also, my hesitation in killing both is that if we can kill just one and they flip mafia, our chances of winning are greatly increased.

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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1201307#msg1201307
« Reply #517 on: August 17, 2015, 09:52:55 am »
And if you kill the civvy, you lost.

I was active from the early beginning, tried to help whereever I could - yeah, first mafia, a bit hype - especially when there was almost no one else Sub could ask for some thoughts, because most people are inactive. As mafia, I could have just sit back the entire time, like Ruta or Root did, and then suddenly appearing not earlier than I am getting in trouble. Not sure what you need to be more suspicious than that.

The fact that I couldn't send these nice pills and so on is basically because I can't. But I used my extra voting power always for town, and always asked either Sub or jcj on who to target, and never failed. Unlike Ruta, who ruined town's plans on purpose at least once in that entro pill situation.

And Root claiming town, then being inactive while saying "oh I don't care, do whatever you want" and when he is targetted, he suddenly admits he was lying the whole time, but he has that role that allows him to hide so we don't "waste" our vote? I mean, seriously.

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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1201321#msg1201321
« Reply #518 on: August 17, 2015, 11:44:41 am »
shouldn't we kill them both if it gives us an extra day? We have 2 Hitmen and both(hopefully) can still use their Gunshot abilities. Lets have each of them target one during the night.
Anything to gain an extra day should be beneficial for the overall cause I would think.
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1201337#msg1201337
« Reply #519 on: August 17, 2015, 12:31:57 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1201341#msg1201341
« Reply #520 on: August 17, 2015, 02:02:44 pm »
And if you kill the civvy, you lost.

I don't feel that strongly about this, I just want to make sure we have our facts straight. If we only kill one and they flip civvy, we just need to get an early vote on the other to win the lynch and have an advantage in numbers/voting from that point on. So no, killing civvy doesn't mean auto-loss.

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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1201342#msg1201342
« Reply #521 on: August 17, 2015, 02:09:10 pm »
You do realize Ruta has +5 voting power with fire pills, yeah?
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1201343#msg1201343
« Reply #522 on: August 17, 2015, 02:10:04 pm »
Also +5 Voting Total.

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« Reply #523 on: August 17, 2015, 02:11:53 pm »
And you already know who of is fellow mafioso will receive this pill to target right this person, yeah?
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1201345#msg1201345
« Reply #524 on: August 17, 2015, 02:15:27 pm »
Also +5 Voting Total.
The problem is that we need to find out who got the +5 voting total. Let's say we only kill one player and he flips civvy. If Ruta is still alive and has a :fire pill on someone, we cannot do anything else than vote the person who got the fire pill. For this, we need a fast reply from the Stalker and then a fast vote, compared to mafia who only needs a fast vote. We are in a disadvantageous position, because town voting on the right person costs more time.
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1201354#msg1201354
« Reply #525 on: August 17, 2015, 03:10:42 pm »
Gotcha. Nevermind me then! I was thinking he took a :fire pill for some reason. >.<

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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1201357#msg1201357
« Reply #526 on: August 17, 2015, 03:43:49 pm »
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« Reply #527 on: August 17, 2015, 03:56:19 pm »
So we'll go the safe route. Alright then. ^^

I figured that targeting only one of them would be a gamechanger, so the pressure is too big to decide by ourselves. That's why I added the roll1d2 option, so RNG can decide which faction gets the upper hand. 50% is a fair chance imo, but it looks like noone preferred it. >_>
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