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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1197683#msg1197683
« Reply #96 on: July 20, 2015, 02:41:28 pm »
Ah darn. Well Im back now for mafia and voting and the likes. Why was frozen voted out btw? He referenced another mafia and it seemed reason enough for others to vote him?

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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1197686#msg1197686
« Reply #97 on: July 20, 2015, 02:59:58 pm »
Could we please discuss the situation at hand? Tell me, what do you all think about this single civilian, standing in the middle, asking for night protection? On long terms, silence is bad.
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1197687#msg1197687
« Reply #98 on: July 20, 2015, 03:02:04 pm »
Ah darn. Well Im back now for mafia and voting and the likes. Why was frozen voted out btw? He referenced another mafia and it seemed reason enough for others to vote him?
Noone had a real reason. People just thought that he was the most suspicious, because he said he won't say anything at all. The thing is, he already said more than half of the players in this mafia, which is sad.
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1197690#msg1197690
« Reply #99 on: July 20, 2015, 03:28:11 pm »
Could we please discuss the situation at hand? Tell me, what do you all think about this single civilian, standing in the middle, asking for night protection? On long terms, silence is bad.
I think it is bad because there are 2 nurses, and they don't know who each other are. Realistically, only 1 is required to keep you safe but they won't be able to coordinate which one. The more likely scenario is that both nurses try to protect you, and the mafia (if they somehow, but unlikely, got coordinated, would get a free lynch on anybody but you.) Then there's other stuff I would say about this attracting attention, but it would be an advantage for the mafia, so I'm going to with hold that information.

Overall, just because I think it's very unlikely for the mafia to get coordinated at this stage in the game to get a free lynch, regardless of probably wasting 2 nurse protections I don't think it will digress the civvies and therefore the act of asking for protection publicly won't be a problem until later on. Then it needs better coordination.
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1197691#msg1197691
« Reply #100 on: July 20, 2015, 03:29:59 pm »
Since I've been getting a lot of questions about this, to reiterate:

If a person receives ANY pill for the following day, they have a choice to either a) ignore it, or b) consume it and receive certain effects.

Addicts do not get this option, and must consume at least one pill that is offered to them when offered.
Examples:
-Regular non-addict receives a random pill. They choose not to consume it during the day. No effects because they didn't take the pill.
-An addict receives three random pills during the night. They have the entire day cycle to choose whether to consume one of those pills, two of them, or all of them. They forget to send in which pill(s) they have to take during the day, and they get killed from withdrawal (mod-killed due to failing to respond).
-An addict receives one pill during the night. They automatically take it during the day cycle, and learn about its effects after the day cycle ends.

I'm assuming air pills given by pharmacists can't be ignored regardless of a person being an addict, right?
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1197692#msg1197692
« Reply #101 on: July 20, 2015, 03:42:49 pm »
I'm assuming air pills given by pharmacists can't be ignored regardless of a person being an addict, right?
Why should they be an exception? They look like a normal pill if you receive them, unless you are an Rehab Expert, and you don't automatically take a pill, unless you are an addict.
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1197698#msg1197698
« Reply #102 on: July 20, 2015, 04:33:29 pm »
I'm assuming air pills given by pharmacists can't be ignored regardless of a person being an addict, right?
Why should they be an exception? They look like a normal pill if you receive them, unless you are an Rehab Expert, and you don't automatically take a pill, unless you are an addict.
Because unlike the other pills air pills can only be used twice, and they're practically our investigation roles
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1197700#msg1197700
« Reply #103 on: July 20, 2015, 04:38:47 pm »
I'm assuming air pills given by pharmacists can't be ignored regardless of a person being an addict, right?
Why should they be an exception? They look like a normal pill if you receive them, unless you are an Rehab Expert, and you don't automatically take a pill, unless you are an addict.
Because unlike the other pills air pills can only be used twice, and they're practically our investigation roles
I think 2U on air pills mean that the Pharmacist can send out 2 pills to 2 different targets on 2 different nights. I might be wrong though.
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1197710#msg1197710
« Reply #104 on: July 20, 2015, 06:39:09 pm »
I'm assuming air pills given by pharmacists can't be ignored regardless of a person being an addict, right?
Why should they be an exception? They look like a normal pill if you receive them, unless you are an Rehab Expert, and you don't automatically take a pill, unless you are an addict.
Because unlike the other pills air pills can only be used twice, and they're practically our investigation roles
I think 2U on air pills mean that the Pharmacist can send out 2 pills to 2 different targets on 2 different nights. I might be wrong though.
Well yes, thats right but irrelevant
Im wondering with air pills if they can be ignored, because a receiver not eating them would suck
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1197711#msg1197711
« Reply #105 on: July 20, 2015, 06:41:25 pm »
Without any explicit exception, I don't see any reason to believe air pills would be ignore-able. And yes, that would suck. So...be careful who you (Pharmacist) send them to?

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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1197712#msg1197712
« Reply #106 on: July 20, 2015, 06:54:17 pm »
All pills will remain unmarked ( :underworld ) when the player is notified of a pill that is being offered to them, minus a few exceptions (see Rehab Expert).
The :air pill seems to be no exception. I guess the reason is to induce the player to actually make a decision instead of just ignoring every pill he gets. It can potentially good, potentially bad.
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1197715#msg1197715
« Reply #107 on: July 20, 2015, 06:56:37 pm »
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Other than that, my point was that i think the :air pill is conditional too, just like the other pills.
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