Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou

[Ginyu]

godisnowonline (1) - UTAlan
kirbylover314 (4) - RootRanger, Zawadx, Submachine, Ginyu

Agree on Root's explainings.

And Hitmen: If you are civvy, target someone this night!! Mafia is close to equal numbers out, and while we lynch random people, they know exactly who to target. Seriously guys, don't sit back for another night.

[Submachine]

And Hitmen: If you are civvy, target someone this night!! Mafia is close to equal numbers out, and while we lynch random people, they know exactly who to target. Seriously guys, don't sit back for another night.

Noted. Will contact mathman about it.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

godisnowonline (1) - UTAlan
kirbylover314 (5) - RootRanger, Zawadx, Submachine, Ginyu, jonathancrazyj

I'll be surprised if kirby's mafia tbh, but no more than most others :/

[UTAlan]

Solid enough logic.

kirbylover314 (6) - RootRanger, Zawadx, Submachine, Ginyu, jonathancrazyj, UTAlan

[godisnowonline]

Sorry. I've been busy irl. Friend of mine got preggers and been handling that with her. I missed doing things during the night the last two nights and if you choose to interpret that as a scum tell fine. That wasn't the case however and each time suspicion has been directed at me its been because of someone elses mistake.

[mathman101]

And Hitmen: If you are civvy, target someone this night!! Mafia is close to equal numbers out, and while we lynch random people, they know exactly who to target. Seriously guys, don't sit back for another night.

Noted. Will contact mathman about it.

That sounds fine to me. I'll start discussing potential night targets.

[Submachine]

Sometimes when you need to make a decision and toss a coin to decide, the moment you see which side of the coin you got, you start feeling that you'd rather choose the other option. I'm feeling this way now. :/ Kirby helped us a lot at his own will without asking any questions, so I feel bad about lynching him. I would feel much better if i stayed out of this.

kirbylover314 (5) - RootRanger, Zawadx, Ginyu, jonathancrazyj, UTAlan

[dawn to dusk]

i liek being alife

will probably do more later, sick and dont want to do anything atm

[kirbylover314]

As you might know, I talked to Sub about stuff, so yeah

Also here because modkill is eww

[Aknelo]

Hmm, been kind of afk last week or so.  RL commitments & school & work got in the way.
Don't wanna be modkilled, don't want to go lynching undeserving targets, will keep eye on remaining day developments.

[Submachine]

I got a kind of information from kirby that changed my feelings about him. My trust on him grew high, almost as high as I had on gusxz, which was high i can tell you.

Spoiler for Don't read walls of text if you are only interested in TL;DR:

JCJ and I got a message from kirby which changed my view about him. I can't quote PMs, so I'll just rephrase it:

He said that he's probably gonna die, but last night's results were: [insert information here that would give away kirby's secondary]
He also said that [a reason that would also give his secondary away] so his loss is okay, he guess, and the put a "meh" after it.

It's not about the information, it's about the behaviour. I think a mafia's reaction would not be this. What I saw here is complete acceptance and also a last minute help, just like what we got from Nae when she tried to hide JCJ's identity with Unemployed.
A mafia who accepted to die wouldn't give last minute help, or not like this.
The "meh" gave me the impression that he is not happy with this situation, for obvious reasons.

This all happened BEFORE kirby posted his post 2 posts before.

From a previous morning phase, kirby also sent a PM where he said that the lack of [it's really hard to tell what he said without revealing his role] makes him worried.

Why would a mafia ever send this to us? This is filler information compared to how a mafia would try to look civvy if that would be the case. But this is simply not kirby's playstyle when he is criminal.

TL;DR I think lynching him would be a mistake. Following Root's logic, I rolled a dice again using an RNG site (random.org was down).
First i got 1d27: 3, which was Rutarete. We need Rutarete alive today so we can get his pill results, so I had to re-roll.
Second i got 1d27: 16, which was Zawadx. It looks like even RNG wants to go the safe route >_>

kirbylover314 (6) - RootRanger, Zawadx, Ginyu, jonathancrazyj, UTAlan
Zawadx (1) - Submachine

[RootRanger]

Sub the RNG had to be done in chat to prove it was not being faked. If you were mafia or had ulterior motives you could obviously just lie about the RNG and no one would know, unless you rolled in chat. The fact that you overlooked this makes me a bit suspicious.