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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1198215#msg1198215
« Reply #192 on: July 23, 2015, 01:54:17 pm »
Why did you strikethrough Zawadx's name? xD I just noticed.
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1198226#msg1198226
« Reply #193 on: July 23, 2015, 03:27:26 pm »
I was watching to see if I can get any reads, but still pretty early.

A good idea is to look out for people changing votes at the time of bandwagons. They're often mafia trying hard to stay with town. So I'm suspicious of UTAlan, killsdazombies, kirbylover314. Ginyu's change of vote 2 times is quite suspicious, but I believe he's telling the truth and is helpful for town.

Note that information transfer can also facilitate mafia this time. So we should avoid harrowing a single person during the night phase as it may prompt mafia to search him and get organized faster (exception to this if you are pretty sure of dying).

lol at the fact that CR is second highest poster and has more posts than host, but is 'unusually quite'.

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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1198230#msg1198230
« Reply #194 on: July 23, 2015, 03:45:49 pm »
I finally formulated a plan! o_o

Not a strong plan, but an effective one.

The plan requires all refugees to tell me either in a chat or forum PM that they are refugees. This is beneficial both for me* and the refugees, because I want my shots to be effective, not wasting any more of my uses on bad targets (poor iancu). Furthermore, if I don't hit refugees with my ability, that's only good for them, because their goal is survival and they don't want to accidently get hit by one of my bullets.

Now it is crucial that ALL the refugees reveal themselves and only to me. If only one refugee remains silent, it will give chance to the mafia to hide under a refugee-cloak. This is important RootRanger! I know that you are fed up with the rules and think that refugees are imbalanced and not fun at all, but for God's sake, don't mess this up for me if you are refugee, please! Please! For the sake of all the people who followed your orders in previous mafias.


*when i mentioned that this plan is beneficial for me, i also mean that it is beneficial for the faction i am in, which is Town, aka Vigilante. Ultimately, the plan mostly benefits the refugees and me, but not town as a whole, because it will mean that if i miss, i won't have chance any more to accidently hit a refugee and a town player will die instead. That's why I will think more than twice on who I target.
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1198231#msg1198231
« Reply #195 on: July 23, 2015, 03:50:59 pm »
Sub, you know that everyone will tell you they are a refugee. No one is going to openly admit to being a mafia

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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1198232#msg1198232
« Reply #196 on: July 23, 2015, 03:52:10 pm »
Youre going to get like, 16 refugee pm's and then theyll all be useless

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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1198234#msg1198234
« Reply #197 on: July 23, 2015, 03:55:02 pm »
and why YOU in particular?
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1198235#msg1198235
« Reply #198 on: July 23, 2015, 03:56:37 pm »
Sub, you know that everyone will tell you they are a refugee. No one is going to openly admit to being a mafia
You misunderstood my plan. Civs shouldn't tell that they are refugees.

That's why i ask civvies NOT to tell me that they are refugees. Civvies can only help themselves if they help me find a mafioso without interruption. If i get more refugee PMs than I'm supposed to be, let that mean that there are only refugees and mafia on the list. If that happens, I'll have no other choice than publishing the list here or give it to someone who i trust, for in case when i die, so he/she can silently figure our who's the scum on the list.
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1198236#msg1198236
« Reply #199 on: July 23, 2015, 03:57:12 pm »
and why YOU in particular?
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1198240#msg1198240
« Reply #200 on: July 23, 2015, 04:00:33 pm »
But Civs will. If you have a "safe list" why wouldnt EVERYONE want to be on it? And, if you were to name drop it, the mafia would just burn everyone else out. Even if one mafia went over and caused you to blurt that list out you would provide so much information to the people information shouldnt be given to


And the fact you can kill people makes you far more dangerous than anyone else right now. If I was inclined, I would tell you I am a refugee simply to try to avoid getting murdered

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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1198242#msg1198242
« Reply #201 on: July 23, 2015, 04:03:15 pm »
Scratch that. I don't really care what civs do as long as the refugees follow my plan.
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1198243#msg1198243
« Reply #202 on: July 23, 2015, 04:03:51 pm »
If you are civvy, please ignore my plan and don't interfere, otherwise it's a douche move.
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Re: Elements Mafia 50 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58865.msg1198245#msg1198245
« Reply #203 on: July 23, 2015, 04:07:32 pm »
So again, in short. Refugees don't need to care about my faction. They only need to care about their survival, not being hit by me.
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