Elements Mafia 48 - by RootRanger

[dawn to dusk]

i have a solid lead that the next poster will be scum

now, onto less serious business, anyone wanna format a plan? or perform an RQS? mine wouldnt be that great (for either of them)

[Espithel]

Well, why not?

RQS land:

1) Who will be the first person to be nightkilled?
2) What are the most powerful civilian roles in the game?
3) What are the weakest civ roles in the game?
4) Are you XD for XD?
5) What should the mafia do to win?
6) How should the town counter this?

[Linkcat]

1) No idea.
2) None.
3) Nurse.
4) XD
5) Kill all the town.
6) Kill all the mafia first.

[UTAlan]

1) Who will be the first person to be nightkilled? RootRanger? But seriously, from what I recall the most recent mafias have generally started with a vet getting killed N1, so I'd have to guess Kuro or dd. Sorry guys, I hope I'm wrong.
2) What are the most powerful civilian roles in the game? Professor. As long as he doesn't hit mafia early, it'll be town's best chance at getting a confirmed alliance started.
3) What are the weakest civ roles in the game? Lance seems kinds weak. If mafia has the same player submit the NK every night, there's only a 1/25 chance on N1 that his ability gets activated. I guess if he survives until late game, it can be pretty effective at that point.
4) Are you XD for XD? What the what?
5) What should the mafia do to win? Ghetsis needs to use his ability every day so they can try to knock off any power roles. Other than that, the abilities don't seem too game-changing. The best thing they can do is, as in any other game, convince town that they aren't mafia. Let me know how to pull this off, as the last few games I apparently did terrible at this.
6) How should the town counter this? Use Professor to get a confirmed alliance going asap. Watch voting patterns, look for scum tells, the usual stuff.

[DoubleCapitals]

Wait, shit, I wasn't accustomed to what is happening, we're allowed to speak during the night phase?

[UTAlan]

You are allowed to post in the mafia thread, although there will be no lynch until the day phase.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

As everyone else is, I suppose I will too, to clarify - In GENERAL, night phase posting will be banned, right? but because this one is starting on a night phase, Root is allowing us to RQS in this first night?
Or is night-posting allowed in general?

[UTAlan]

- Players are allowed to talk about mafia outside of the forum thread.
- Players are allowed to abstain from voting.
- Players are allowed to communicate during the night phase.

[DoubleCapitals]

Well, why not?

RQS land:

1) Who will be the first person to be nightkilled?
2) What are the most powerful civilian roles in the game?
3) What are the weakest civ roles in the game?
4) Are you XD for XD?
5) What should the mafia do to win?
6) How should the town counter this?

Alright, I'm an idiot, didn't read the rules, assumed that night talking wasn't allowed as per past mafias, so I'll take an English lesson, but anyway:

1) A veteran, so probably dd/Kuro. I'm 3rd in terms of games played but obviously I'm not to judge whether I am a vet or not.
2) Primaries:
Professor. Obviously
Lance. Confirmed townie that has done his job, when he does his job + 1 mafia down. I cannot stress how important confirmed townies are.
Secondaries:
Magikarp/Dragonite: stacking voting totals are always useful.
Jellicent: Tracker role that doubles as a searcher for non-VT roles, sort of
Psyduck: As soon as there is one confirmed civy, Psyduck can determine cop sanity. Also, useless as a mafia secondary
3) Primaries: VTs. Obviously.
Secondaries:Klavier/Luke, oop sorry lol. Gengar/Hydreigon. Mienshao too. Most others have merits.
4) DX
5) Frozen, if you're mafia and have no idea what your mafia plan is, you wouldn't be getting your tips from me. Any rational townies will intentionally leave this field blank.
6) Generally, civies make a plan, mafia has to counter it, not the other way round. Civy plan is simple. As always, build a network of confirmed townies that share info. Systematically down mafia through process of elimination. Win.

[iancudorinmarian]

Well, why not?

RQS land:

1) Who will be the first person to be nightkilled?
2) What are the most powerful civilian roles in the game?
3) What are the weakest civ roles in the game?
4) Are you XD for XD?
5) What should the mafia do to win?
6) How should the town counter this?

1) I don't know, I just hope it won't be me again.
2) I never read all roles, so I don't know.
3) See above.
4) Obviously.
5) Nightkill.
6) Lynch.

[Zawadx]

Well, why not?

RQS land:

1) Who will be the first person to be nightkilled?
2) What are the most powerful civilian roles in the game?
3) What are the weakest civ roles in the game?
4) Are you XD for XD?
5) What should the mafia do to win?
6) How should the town counter this?

1) Mafia could kill a vet to get an advantage, they could kill a newbie to test out their luck (it worked once when I was mafia), they could lynch randomly from the list. The first NK has little significance IMO.
2) All civvie primary roles are pretty strong imo. Lance seems the strongest, since he can be confirmed and survive with Nurse's protection. For a while.
3) IMO Professor is the weakest since the target learns the professor's role, which makes him bad for mafiahunting. But if Professor can make an alliance without hiting Giovanni, he can be pretty good too.
4) Nope, not my thing.
5) Mafia's plan should prioritize Maxie and Archie slowly building up their power for endgame advantage. Giovanni and Ghetsis are pretty good support for this plan. Cyrus seems a bit weak to me, as his ability is more of a gimmick. But it can be useful to get a guaranteed lynch.
6) Town's primary roles don't have a specific counter to the Maxie/Archie build-up, but they can be effectively countered with the usual town strategy of scumhunting, confirming civvies etc. The secondary roles seems a bit more town-favored to me as a whole, so Town should try to utilize thier secondary roles to the best of their abilities.

[UTAlan]

Town's primary roles don't have a specific counter to the Maxie/Archie build-up, but they can be effectively countered with the usual town strategy of scumhunting, confirming civvies etc.

Just to add on to this, avoiding situations where we end up with more than 2 or 3 options for lynching at the end of the day will help reduce the chance that Maxie/Archie can get their voting power too high without giving themselves away.