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Re: Elements Mafia 46 - by Frozengaia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57624.msg1182253#msg1182253
« Reply #252 on: March 14, 2015, 07:32:01 pm »
I don't know what else to say. My vote on Linkcat is gonna be wasted, so I might as well keep myself alive.

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Re: Elements Mafia 46 - by Frozengaia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57624.msg1182256#msg1182256
« Reply #253 on: March 14, 2015, 08:44:38 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 46 - by Frozengaia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57624.msg1182261#msg1182261
« Reply #254 on: March 14, 2015, 09:41:15 pm »
DAWN OF THE NINTH DAY

Okay, guys.
A really awkward and special case has happened right now. I'll do the lore for everyone else later, I need to get this out quickly, though.

Kuroaitou, a Vanilla Victim, has been appeased via Lynch.

This is to be expected.

This is the problem, however:
Nobody has been appeased via Threx Nightkill.

There is only one way right now this can happen, and normally, I'm not supposed to disclose this, but I should.
The Threxes didn't send in a nightkill, therefore, they didn't kill anyone. Therefore, there are now 2 civilians and 2 mafia. Therefore, the civilians can still win the game via RNG.

A very big argument could/should arouse over whether this is the right thing or not, but this is what the rules dictate I do.
Even though I just broke them by telling you the threxes didn't send in a nightkill. Am I punishing a really easily rectifiable error too much? I don't know - they should've sent in a nightkill. I am on the lawful neutral side of the argument, but I can completely understand and respect the "This is BS just let the mafia win" argument.

As a result, I'm going to ask everyone else about the ethics.

So what I'm going to do, is this:

We'll have a ninth day. If both civilians vote on a mafia, this will make RNG will happen twice. The first RNG between the two lynched. Then day 10'll happen, and the remaining civilian and mafia (This is assuming I kill a mafia with the RNG, the mafia will kill the other civilian via NK) will obviously vote on each other, causing a second RNG lynch that'll determine the game. Day 10 will happen on the ninth twilight - when the target of day nine's lynch and nightkill is revealed.

However, If all people still in the game (UTAlan, Linkcat, iancumarindorian, and qwerter) agree to it, I'll just let the mafia win, as some would argue they probably should by this point.
Or, if the majority of people who have participated in this mafia want the game to end with a mafia victory, I will.

I think this is the fairest way of doing it.
I should've stated clearly the win condition of the Threxes (You win when the Victims cannot possibly win. The Victims win when all Threxes are dead.), and perhaps made the win condition in a way that this somewhat cheap way doesn't happen if I ever use these rules a second time.
Or, the mafia could just, um... Send in a nightkill?


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Re: Elements Mafia 46 - by Frozengaia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57624.msg1182262#msg1182262
« Reply #255 on: March 14, 2015, 09:47:11 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 46 - by Frozengaia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57624.msg1182263#msg1182263
« Reply #256 on: March 14, 2015, 10:02:46 pm »
I vote for Threx win.
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Re: Elements Mafia 46 - by Frozengaia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57624.msg1182264#msg1182264
« Reply #257 on: March 14, 2015, 10:05:00 pm »
From beyond the grave: Even despite the fail that mafia managed by not sending in a NK 'today', in a game where it's 2-2 mafia has already won. That's it.
We could of course let it run for another day, but if previous days are any indication, civvies will just lynch each other...
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Re: Elements Mafia 46 - by Frozengaia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57624.msg1182265#msg1182265
« Reply #258 on: March 14, 2015, 10:06:31 pm »
I say we let the game continue. "The real fun starts here..."

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Re: Elements Mafia 46 - by Frozengaia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57624.msg1182266#msg1182266
« Reply #259 on: March 14, 2015, 10:09:50 pm »
I want to see what happens. Also for letting it continue

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Re: Elements Mafia 46 - by Frozengaia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57624.msg1182269#msg1182269
« Reply #260 on: March 14, 2015, 10:44:37 pm »
Normally I'd just say end it, but this is way too much fun, so keep going :3
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Re: Elements Mafia 46 - by Frozengaia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57624.msg1182273#msg1182273
« Reply #261 on: March 14, 2015, 11:22:34 pm »
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As a result, I'm going to ask everyone else about the ethics.

I say keep it going, if the threxes really wanted the win they would have sent in a kill during the night. since they didn't they either forgot or they feel confident enough that they think they can still beat the victims like this.
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Re: Elements Mafia 46 - by Frozengaia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57624.msg1182279#msg1182279
« Reply #262 on: March 15, 2015, 12:06:23 am »
Obviously I'm biased but normally when mafia is half of living players they win and the endgame isn't played out (barring killing roles being alive on the town side).
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Re: Elements Mafia 46 - by Frozengaia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57624.msg1182287#msg1182287
« Reply #263 on: March 15, 2015, 01:42:30 am »
The miracle never happened. 1 mafia should be iancudorinmarian, the other Linkcat. At least I don't give up after I mislynch, and it is hard to trust me after this, but try I will.
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