Elements Mafia 44 - by qwerter

[Dm]

Senpai?

Dm1321 (3) - ddevans96, CrockettRocket, Dm1321

[Espithel]

Curveball time:

Kirbylover314 (1) - Frozengaia

During this night, I checked up with Physsion and asked him to show me this "game-winning" information, to which he nicely complied. Thank you, Physs. Probably should have asked if I could've shared this information, but I'm lazy :c

Anyway, this little tale involves three people:
Person A (Let's keep his identity hidden for reasons)
Physsion
Kirbylover314.

Person A sent Physsion and Kirby a PM about being mafia, claiming to be mafia. Both sent back claiming that they're both mafia - Physsion says it was to deceive the mafia and milk them. Kirby, though...

Physsion claims that Kirby has had very little contact with Person A or Crockett before and after the PM was sent. Physsion believes that Kirby claimed of his own volition - making him highly mafia.

Person A is believed by Physsion to be civilian, due to him asking Person A about all this and his reply checking up.
Crockett has even told me a few nights ago that this Person A is even so far as confirmed civilian - This is why I'm loosely hiding his name.

Physsion's story checks up with my understanding of this mafia, so I'm happy to believe it.

TL;DR: Kirby is mafia because he claimed of his own violition.

[eljoemo]

Unless Kirby was doing the same thing that Physsion was doing, and they're both civvies thinking the others are mafia and trying to get information, only kirby wasn't doing a very good job at all. Just playing devil's advocate...

Anyway, I'd still like to here what kirby has to say, as well as the logic behind lynching Dm (although he doesn't seem to mind) before there's a move made.

And I'll go ahead and fix the vote

Dm1321 (3) - ddevans96, CrockettRocket, Dm1321
Kirbylover314 (1) - Frozengaia

[Espithel]

That is definitely a possibility I know about.

But I feel that splitting this in the wide open will make SirGrandPersonA and Crockett verify it.
...Correctly.

[CrockettRocket]

That is definitely a possibility I know about.

But I feel that splitting this in the wide open will make SirGrandPersonA and Crockett verify it.
...Correctly.

Yes thats true. Its exactly why I thought physsion was mafia and not kirby. In almost every previous mafia I have been contacted by a mafioso trying to help create civvy plans. Kirby has had minimal contact with me and physsion the same, except physsion went to try and make plans with me.

and gawd gaia, I think almost every time you've voted unless there was a large banwagon already in place you've wiped the votes. Could just be this time but please dont wipe the votes when you're obviously able to make long posts, so you cant be on your phone.

[flyingcat]

No idea what's happening.

[ddevans96]

Frozen's Person A is me - since that information is now fully out in the open, I have no issue revealing it. I chose not to use that information (that kirby was almost certainly mafia) immediately, as it was obtained in a way that I felt was against the spirit of mafia. My conversation with Physsion implied that he also didn't want to use it immediately, for one reason or another. However, since that information is now in public hands, it is probably the better lynch choice. Dm is still very likely to be mafia, though.

...as well as the logic behind lynching Dm (although he doesn't seem to mind) before there's a move made.

Someone contacted me Night 3 and told me I was a confirmed civilian. A mafia would have be be extremely stupid, extremely brave, or a considerable amount of both to take that risk. Therefore, I believe them to also be civilian. In night 4, they gave me information that suggested Dm is very likely to be mafia. There are possibilities that he isn't, but they are very low. I'm not going to reveal any more than that in order to protect my source.

tl;dr Dm is very likely mafia, kirby is even more likely mafia.

Dm1321 (2) - CrockettRocket, Dm1321
Kirbylover314 (2) - Frozengaia, ddevans96

I'll switch to the safer vote.

[theelkspeaks]

Dm1321 (2) - CrockettRocket, Dm1321
Kirbylover314 (3) - Frozengaia, ddevans96, theelkspeaks

[Espithel]

Person A is indeed ddevans.

He's liek cool and stuff

*Worships*

[flyingcat]

My suspicion is on kirby. Dm is fishy, but then again, this is Dm.
Dm1321 (2) - CrockettRocket, Dm1321
Kirbylover314 (4) - Frozengaia, ddevans96, theelkspeaks, flyingcat

[bossitron]

Dm1321 (2) - CrockettRocket, Dm1321
Kirbylover314 (5) - Frozengaia, ddevans96, theelkspeaks, flyingcat, bossitron

blegh

[Zawadx]

Dm1321 (2) - CrockettRocket, Dm1321
Kirbylover314 (6) - Frozengaia, ddevans96, theelkspeaks, flyingcat, bossitron, Zawadx

Seems legit. Would like kirby's response, but frozen and dd would be pretty stupid to do this if they're mafia.