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Re: Elements Mafia 44 - by qwerter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56988.msg1171312#msg1171312
« Reply #84 on: December 15, 2014, 01:28:10 pm »
EBWOP: I don't want ian to lynch Elbirn for ian's personal reasons.
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Re: Elements Mafia 44 - by qwerter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56988.msg1171313#msg1171313
« Reply #85 on: December 15, 2014, 01:29:35 pm »
Mafia gets one penalty free search, so we'll lack info for a bit. I kind of don't want to see Elbirn lynched for personal reasons though. ian, can you remove that vote?
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Re: Elements Mafia 44 - by qwerter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56988.msg1171314#msg1171314
« Reply #86 on: December 15, 2014, 01:45:24 pm »
I suggest conga line? We find out influential, and investigate him? Mafia can't really kill him just outright considering he might be mafia...

It's either a shitty plan or none.
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Re: Elements Mafia 44 - by qwerter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56988.msg1171315#msg1171315
« Reply #87 on: December 15, 2014, 01:47:48 pm »
I suggest conga line? We find out influential, and investigate him? Mafia can't really kill him just outright considering he might be mafia...

It's either a shitty plan or none.
I feel like mafia would kill of threatning roles reguardless and hope its not mafia.

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Re: Elements Mafia 44 - by qwerter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56988.msg1171316#msg1171316
« Reply #88 on: December 15, 2014, 01:52:30 pm »
To make up for this disadvantage, the mafia will have a slight numerical advantage compared to previous games (4 mafiaso if players do not exceed 16, 5 mafiaso at 16-21 players and 6 mafiaso at 22 or more players)

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Re: Elements Mafia 44 - by qwerter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56988.msg1171317#msg1171317
« Reply #89 on: December 15, 2014, 02:01:21 pm »
Ok, so immah be NKd night 1 again.  ::)
I refuse to answer RQS, as i find this benefiting mafia WAY more than civvies. 1st question offers a plan for civvies that, now known to mafia, can be countered easily. 2nd gives mafia a plan, and civvies generally cant counter anyway. 3rd tells mafia what roles to target. 4th isnt bad, but then you know its NOT my answer to 3.

I intended to do this RQS before I joined up.
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Re: Elements Mafia 44 - by qwerter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56988.msg1171318#msg1171318
« Reply #90 on: December 15, 2014, 02:05:41 pm »
Ok, so immah be NKd night 1 again.  ::)
I refuse to answer RQS, as i find this benefiting mafia WAY more than civvies. 1st question offers a plan for civvies that, now known to mafia, can be countered easily. 2nd gives mafia a plan, and civvies generally cant counter anyway. 3rd tells mafia what roles to target. 4th isnt bad, but then you know its NOT my answer to 3.

I intended to do this RQS before I joined up.
Whatever I am has nothing to do with me wanting to do an RQS - it would have happened regardless of my identity.

-this- RQS? Why this one? Whyd you pick those scummy questions? Sure it has nothing to do with your identity, i wont even pressure hard on that. But you're a goood day 1 lynch
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Re: Elements Mafia 44 - by qwerter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56988.msg1171321#msg1171321
« Reply #91 on: December 15, 2014, 02:23:12 pm »
I picked those questions because I assumed it would make an insightful RQS that might give us a tiny, little spark of possibility for information. And it didn't, but I tried.

Information helps the town too, you know.
If anything, the mafia will already know the answer to those questions by night 1 latest, if they know what they're doing. So all we're doing is giving everyone the answer slightly earlier.

Anyway, that's drawing just a bit too much attention to something rather benign and meaningless, so I'm going to shut up for the day.

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Re: Elements Mafia 44 - by qwerter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56988.msg1171367#msg1171367
« Reply #92 on: December 15, 2014, 07:45:45 pm »
1) Assuming you are a civilian, how would you try to win this mafia?
2) Assuming you are mafia, how would you try to win this mafia?
3) What are the three best civilian roles? Why is this?
4) What are the three worst civilian roles? Why is this?
1.) The policeman needs to build a network of confirmed civilians, which will eventually grow large enough to overcome the mafia. I don't have any twisted master plan this time around, because the rules are actually constructed properly. There's no such instant-win button for the civilians because a secondary role is not enough to determine whether one is civilian or mafia.
2.) The mafia need to find each other, fast. They would have to collectively figure out a way to all target the same person - probably whoever is taking on the role as leader of the civs. In this case, it seems like the mafia should probably all target Frozengaia. Sorry mate :P
3.) The most useful civilians are the Policeman, Detective, and Sociologist. It's the opposite of real life, essentially.
4.) The least useful civilians are the Politician, Astrologist, and Lawyer. Honorable mention goes to Influential. Voting roles just aren't very strong if they're capped at 2-3. They would have to be 4-5 in order to do much.
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Re: Elements Mafia 44 - by qwerter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56988.msg1171369#msg1171369
« Reply #93 on: December 15, 2014, 07:52:05 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 44 - by qwerter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56988.msg1171371#msg1171371
« Reply #94 on: December 15, 2014, 07:53:59 pm »
Well, ian said grudge vote. Also seems fishy to me, sorry.
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Re: Elements Mafia 44 - by qwerter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56988.msg1171372#msg1171372
« Reply #95 on: December 15, 2014, 07:55:02 pm »
Me? The leader?
What is this sorcery?

 

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