Elements Mafia 43 - by iancudorinmarian

[Dm]

Took you eight mins to type two lines? Damn. =P

Had to vote on someone. May change it later since I don't know some other people either (Sky, namely.)

[Submachine]

Got it! (I think)

Also, why are we lynching Dm? Is it just because of what CR said or is there another reason? I mean, I'm all for lynching people but I like to make sure there's a reason behind it.

EDIT: Whilst writing a message defending Dm (kind of), Dm votes on you -.-

Ok, specifically for you eljoemo:
There are 10 elements in the game.
Aether, Light, Time, Entropy and Earth are confirmed.
There are 5 elements left which can be mafia.
1 of them is the element of the Forever Alone civvy, who i am in contact with, and is 75% to be telling the truth about his element.
2 teams, including YOUR had contacted UTAlan, where we assumed that you two does not seem suspicious.
There are 2 teams left who are suspicious, and there are 2 mafia teams.
Fire is suspicious. Dm was Fire, but I had to win one more day to lynch someone else, contact Steal to get rid of Dm's role (which i intentionally kept secret from Dm until now), because if mafia was Phoenix, we lose a day lynching him. Now here is the opportunity to lynch him, and now he's the one who tries to attack reasons that he wa intentionally left out of.

I'm not 100% sure that Fire is mafia. It's possible that YOU are mafia, eljoemo, because since UTA died, your team didn't say a word towards me. And YOU got my message but you keep assuming that it's still about CR.

[eljoemo]

I suppose that makes sense. I also suppose I should have read that message better (I kinda just skimmed it at the time). If no-one else has any reason not to lynch Dm then I guess...

Dm (2) - bossitron, eljoemo
bossitron (1) - Fippe94
eljoemo (1) - Dm

[Submachine]

I want to give more details for those who are in the mist:
Since there are 5 suspicious elements, I list 5 people here who are from those teams. None of these people should be in the same team. Choose 2, who you think is suspicious:

• Dm
• skyironsword
• Fippe94
• eljoemo
• bossitron

None of these listed people should be Phoenix, but there are 2 Phoenix roles in the game at the moment. If sky or bossitron is mafia, it means mafia still has Phoenix. If Dm is not mafia, he can still be used to get Phoenix back. That's the only reason i'm hesitating on Dm. I'll send the partners of listed people to 2 semi-confirmed people so we'll still have the information flow going if I die.

[flyingcat]

I'm for lynching eljoemo. Has not given much reason as to why we shouldn't lynch him.
Dm (2) - bossitron, eljoemo
bossitron (1) - Fippe94
eljoemo (2) - Dm, flyingcat

[theelkspeaks]

Likely won't be on again before day's end.  Just going to go with eljoe and hope for the best, based on Sub's post (and he's our one conftown).

Dm (2) - bossitron, eljoemo
bossitron (1) - Fippe94
eljoemo (3) - Dm, flyingcat, theelkspeaks

[Submachine]

Likely won't be on again before day's end.  Just going to go with eljoe and hope for the best, based on Sub's post (and he's our one conftown).

Dm (2) - bossitron, eljoemo
bossitron (1) - Fippe94
eljoemo (3) - Dm, flyingcat, theelkspeaks

At this point, for those who didn't vote yet, please don't bandwagon. Form your own suspicions please.
One mistake that iNuzzle pointed out from town, is that once a name has many votes, people vote on that without further thinking.
This is one of those rare cases where if you vote on someone else than the majority, you WON'T look more suspicious.

[mathman101]

This is one of those rare cases where if you vote on someone else than the majority, you WON'T look more suspicious.

I understand how this is supposed to help, but if we start to spread our votes out will it not be easier for 1 or 2 people to last minute vote and bump up over the current max vote?


Also sorry, I've been a bit busy with other stuff, but for now I will post a small vote as a place holder, but I may change it (or add a better reasoning) if I find something else after going over a re-read of the posts.

Dm (2) - bossitron, eljoemo
bossitron (1) - Fippe94
eljoemo (3) - Dm, flyingcat, theelkspeaks
Coffeeditto (1) - mathman101

[dawn to dusk]

that list is seriously crying out for a list read

im gonna try to do one, no promises its good

[Submachine]

Dm (2) - bossitron, eljoemo
bossitron (1) - Fippe94
eljoemo (3) - Dm, flyingcat, theelkspeaks
Coffeeditto (1) - mathman101

Choose from the list please. Coffee is not on there, plus I have other good reasons to say don't lynch Coffee.

2 out of these 5 people are mafia:

• Dm
• skyironsword
• Fippe94
• eljoemo
• bossitron

Since i post too much and some people are lazy to read them back, I'll highlight the most important informations from now on. :P

[dawn to dusk]

Dm
Day 1
Answer to the RQS was pretty much nothing. while this may seem like a standard for dm, it isnt too hard to answer 3 simple questions. eh, maybe thats just lazyness idk. rest of day 1 was spent either turning down a bad plan or saying that elbirn shouldnt have joined in the first place. didnt really help town too much though imo, the plan was a bad plan whether dm said anything or not. maybe an attempt to seem like he is helping town but not actually doing anything? idk i cant even list read

Day 2
claims pheonix to ensure he doesnt die, he could have just allowed nothing to happen, taking away his BP shield and not risk killing a townie but it was also an opportunity to hopefully get rid of a scum who people thought was mafia anyway. provides a deatailed reason of mistakes and why the blame shouldnt be on him. overkill maybe? either way, his arguments were well planned.

Day 3
voicing opinion quite a lot, seemingly only does this when blame is put on him like it was D2 but maybe just stopped being lazy i guess.

Final Conclusion: null, leaning weak town

Sky
Day 1
Doesnt post, didnt answer RQS

Day 2
'i did not post because i had nothing to say' this is seeming scum to me, because you could have at least posted for the RQS but instead, stayed silent. you could have posted you opinion, but you didnt. then only posts to change vote later in the day

Day 3
Doesnt post

Final conclusion: weak scum, inactive member

Fippe
Day 1
posts a bad idea that could easily result in a mafia win, even if it was sarcasm, it didnt help town at all. next post is an obvious strat of getting a confirmed townie and getting people to send in the roles. doesnt answer RQS (two posts)

Day 2
asks CR to stop posting as it confuses things. maybe because he is a scum and isnt sure whether to get rid of CR? or because he is town and doesnt want to vote on CR? (one post)

Day 3
defends dm, follows town around. seemingly a scum trait as it avoids town detection.

Final Conclusion: null, leaning weak scum, inactive member

eljoemo
Day 1
Early plan, answers RQS. doesnt post the plan as it may not e benefitial to town (unlike fippe). (one post)

Day 2
saw sub die before he was targeted by GA, asks for clarification. doesnt tell who it was but it may have helped both mafia and town. this is just because he wanted to respect human error i assume. posts to avoid modkill, joins a bandwagon against dm.

Day 3
kinda defends dm, while dm is against him. kinda forgets about it when dm votes against him and sub provides a semi-valid reason to vote dm.

Final Conclusion: null, leaning weak town, semi-inactive member (voices opinion more than the others do, other than dm)

Bossitron
Day 1
1st post answers RQS, nothing more

Day 2
kinda sad that the NT strat failed. posts to vote after. changes vote saying the logic was flawed and it was a placeholder vote. if the logic was flawed, why didnt you say anything about it?

Day 3
votes dm after saying the day before that he shouldnt have.

Final Conclusion: nub scum (semi-inactive member)

Dm (2) - bossitron, eljoemo
bossitron (2) - Fippe94, dawn to dusk
eljoemo (3) - Dm, flyingcat, theelkspeaks
Coffeeditto (1) - mathman101

[dawn to dusk]

sorry, upon looking back at notes, dm is weak town, capabilities to be stronger town if he continues to play the way he is