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Re: Elements Mafia 42 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55880.msg1161965#msg1161965
« Reply #336 on: October 24, 2014, 10:32:35 am »
Since I became one of the priority targets, i feel i should say something. I'm not even sure if saying my role matters, because if either me or sky are mafia, we'll of course having a fake one, but if you feel the need, I can tell publicly (UTA already knows it).
So Root said one of the power roles is missing. Including my role, there should be 3 roles in play: Deathstalker, Pegasus and Phoenix. If I'm one, and sky is another, then the third can be only at 2 places: either at mathman's or Kuroaitou's former possession -who died without their roles being exposed-, or were dead from the beginning and noone claimed them because of risk. Ian assumed one, but it wouldn't be the first time that he was wrong. ^^"
Knowing this, there's that possibility that sky is also innocent and we're just lynching PRs. (~66%?)

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Re: Elements Mafia 42 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55880.msg1161967#msg1161967
« Reply #337 on: October 24, 2014, 10:55:43 am »
I would like both of you to publicly claim. That way I can formulate a plan somehow and all of us 9 people know I'm not scheming anything behind the scenes in PMs and know the full reasoning behind my plan as well.
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Re: Elements Mafia 42 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55880.msg1161968#msg1161968
« Reply #338 on: October 24, 2014, 10:57:25 am »
I forgot a possibility, being early morning to me didn't help. -_-

the third can be only at 2 places: either at mathman's or Kuroaitou's former possession -who died without their roles being exposed-, or were dead from the beginning and noone claimed them because of risk.
I also wanted to add the possibility that either sky or me claimed one role. There~
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Re: Elements Mafia 42 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55880.msg1161969#msg1161969
« Reply #339 on: October 24, 2014, 10:59:47 am »
I would like both of you to publicly claim. That way I can formulate a plan somehow and all of us 9 people know I'm not scheming anything behind the scenes in PMs and know the full reasoning behind my plan as well.
The only reason why I hesitated is Phoenix. If Phoenix is one of us, and town lynches the other person, the mafia will of course attempt to kill the confirmed power role. And if said person is the Phoenix, he/she already won a day for town. ;)
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Re: Elements Mafia 42 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55880.msg1161970#msg1161970
« Reply #340 on: October 24, 2014, 11:01:27 am »
I forgot a possibility, being early morning to me didn't help. -_-
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And I'm dumb, it's not early morning, but I just woke up and there wasn't much light outside. I'm a herpaderp today. >_<
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Re: Elements Mafia 42 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55880.msg1161973#msg1161973
« Reply #341 on: October 24, 2014, 11:42:02 am »
So you're claiming "not-pheonix" and you're afraid sky will claim phoenix when she's actually mafioso? PM me then what you're specific claim is plz.
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Re: Elements Mafia 42 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55880.msg1161978#msg1161978
« Reply #342 on: October 24, 2014, 12:52:57 pm »
Including my role, there should be 3 roles in play: Deathstalker, Pegasus and Phoenix. If I'm one, and sky is another, then the third can be only at 2 places: either at mathman's or Kuroaitou's former possession -who died without their roles being exposed-, or were dead from the beginning and noone claimed them because of risk. Ian assumed one, but it wouldn't be the first time that he was wrong. ^^"

I actually had taken for granted that ian made an educated guess on Kuro as Deathstalker. If he was wrong about that and both mathman and Kuro were vanilla, it is possible that you are both innocent. More to think about.

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Re: Elements Mafia 42 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55880.msg1161979#msg1161979
« Reply #343 on: October 24, 2014, 01:14:53 pm »
On second thought, we have numbers on our side. If one of them is mafia and the other is PR, we can get it wrong today and still be okay. We're at 2 mafia to 9 town right now. That means even if we lynch a PR today, we'll have a mafia for sure tomorrow, getting us to 1 to 6 by the next day. I'm okay with those odds. Random.org says...

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Re: Elements Mafia 42 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55880.msg1161980#msg1161980
« Reply #344 on: October 24, 2014, 01:18:06 pm »
On second thought, we have numbers on our side. If one of them is mafia and the other is PR, we can get it wrong today and still be okay. We're at 2 mafia to 9 town right now. That means even if we lynch a PR today, we'll have a mafia for sure tomorrow, getting us to 1 to 6 by the next day. I'm okay with those odds. Random.org says...

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I encourage others to do the same.

Also, I can't count. 2/9 are mafia, meaning 2 to 7. As long as 1 of either sky or Sub are mafia, the strategy still works in our favor.

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Re: Elements Mafia 42 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55880.msg1161999#msg1161999
« Reply #345 on: October 24, 2014, 04:45:05 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 42 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55880.msg1162001#msg1162001
« Reply #346 on: October 24, 2014, 05:03:03 pm »
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Although I don't like this plan, it is our best option at the moment, unless someone has something better.
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Re: Elements Mafia 42 - by theelkspeaks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55880.msg1162003#msg1162003
« Reply #347 on: October 24, 2014, 05:20:02 pm »
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Although I don't like this plan, it is our best option at the moment, unless someone has something better.

What do you not like about it? The only risk we're taking is if Kuro and mathman were both vanilla. Then we're in a little trouble, but we could still recover. I am open to better plans if anyone has one.

 

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