Elements Mafia 42 - by theelkspeaks

[Nepycros]

Arguing kids are the best kids.

Anyway, Root said that Ian was the warden, to which Ian confirmed.
That pretty much dispels my fears that Ian/Root are scumbags.

Possibility 1: Root is lynched and we see his role as a civvy, that confirms Ian's innocence and still lets us keep a warden.
Possibility 2: Root is lynched and is mafia, we get 2 mafia.
Possibility 3: Root is not lynched; Ian is, and we get a civilian, confirming Root's innocence.
Possibility 4: Root is not lynched; Ian is, and we get 2 mafia.
Possibility 5: Root is not lynched; Ian is not lynched; a random person is lynched, with a 4/15 chance of hitting mafia.
Possibility 6: Root is not lynched; Ian is not lynched; nobody is lynched, resulting in another dead civvy.

At the pace the game is going, the mafia may try to speed up the lynching by swinging it toward a kill. If the civilians wait too long, however, the mafia won't need to do that.

[Elbirn]

Frozengaia's probably horribly inaccurate lurker list (maybe):
Sky,
Brusterix,
Zawadx,
Elbirn,
Fippe,
Eljoemo.

Anyone else want to discuss the lurker list?

I don't constantly hyperactively babble about irrelevant nonsense while doing nothing to further the goal of the the town like you do, so I'm suspicious?

I do all that I can, which isn't much when you're vanilla. And when I've felt that an opinion, comment, or analysis was needed, I spoke up. Other than that all I can do is pay attention to the goings on, mull it over, and wait.

Possibility 1: Root is lynched and we see his role as a civvy, that confirms Ian's innocence and still lets us keep a warden.
Possibility 2: Root is lynched and is mafia, we get 2 mafia.
Possibility 3: Root is not lynched; Ian is, and we get a civilian, confirming Root's innocence.
Possibility 4: Root is not lynched; Ian is, and we get 2 mafia.
Possibility 5: Root is not lynched; Ian is not lynched; a random person is lynched, with a 4/15 chance of hitting mafia.
Possibility 6: Root is not lynched; Ian is not lynched; nobody is lynched, resulting in another dead civvy.

At the pace the game is going, the mafia may try to speed up the lynching by swinging it toward a kill. If the civilians wait too long, however, the mafia won't need to do that.

If I understand correctly, your "possibilities" seem to indicate the best way to go is a random lynch of someone who isn't root or Ian...But that that's the same thing the mafia wants? Wha?

[Zawadx]

Mod: Do the Mafia know the roles of the people killed by Phase Spider?

Ian: Did you target someone on Night 1? If no, then why not?

Frozen: Lurkers are usually PRs... even tho there's a lot of WIFOM on that. Also, on this forum you can't just brand someone a lurker if they do one or two posts a day. That's the meta here, and most people stick to that. Lynching lurkers will prolly kill a PR or Mafia, but the risk of killing a PR is high... which is what makes me suspicious of you.

I'll wait for ian and mod's answer before sending in my role.

[Submachine]

You are indeed inactive, even if not in mafia. UTAlan and eaglgenes101 are waiting for you in the Mastermind Tournament and Mastermind Sandbox to make your move already.

I would like to kill the lurkers in the group, because I'm a fan of tropes.

This is hiliarious. I thought I posted quite a lot on my opinions.

Skyironsword (1) - Frozengaia
Frozengaia (1) - qwerter

Serious opinion also coming soon.

[Dm]

Arguing kids are the best kids.

Anyway, Root said that Ian was the warden, to which Ian confirmed.
That pretty much dispels my fears that Ian/Root are scumbags.

Possibility 1: Root is lynched and we see his role as a civvy, that confirms Ian's innocence and still lets us keep a warden.
Possibility 2: Root is lynched and is mafia, we get 2 mafia.
Possibility 3: Root is not lynched; Ian is, and we get a civilian, confirming Root's innocence.
Possibility 4: Root is not lynched; Ian is, and we get 2 mafia.
Possibility 5: Root is not lynched; Ian is not lynched; a random person is lynched, with a 4/15 chance of hitting mafia.
Possibility 6: Root is not lynched; Ian is not lynched; nobody is lynched, resulting in another dead civvy.

At the pace the game is going, the mafia may try to speed up the lynching by swinging it toward a kill. If the civilians wait too long, however, the mafia won't need to do that.

EBWOP.

[RootRanger]

Frozen, please stop spamming. It's very time-consuming to have to scroll all the way through your posts.

Anyways, I think we should have the Phoenix role claim. This information would provide very little benefit to the mafia, but it could really help the civilians.

Once the Phoenix role claims, we have iancudorinmarian target the Phoenix with his Warden ability. The following day, the Phoenix can confirm he was targeted by ian.

Furthermore, we can have the Golden Nymph target me (or ian, whoever you prefer). If one of us is , then the civilians get to take out two mafias.

The only way we could still both be mafia if the Golden Nymph, Warden, and Phoenix have all been killed in rounds 1, 2, and 3. But the chances of that are too small to even consider.

[RootRanger]

I just talked to elk, and it turns out a player is only notified that they have been targeted by the Warden if they ought to have received a result and did not. The only roles that could be notified would be Armagio, Golden Nymph, Pegasus, Deathstalker, and Fallen Elf.

And now we all know that I'm one of them.

Anyways, I suppose on the bright side this explains why nobody came forward following the first night - the Warden simply didn't target someone with an ability.

How about this - if I made a role claim that nobody contests, would it convince you all that I'm not mafia?

[theelkspeaks]

Mod: Do the Mafia know the roles of the people killed by Phase Spider?

-snip-

Yes, the spider can see what type of body it is eating.

[iancudorinmarian]

Mod: Do the Mafia know the roles of the people killed by Phase Spider?

Ian: Did you target someone on Night 1? If no, then why not?

Frozen: Lurkers are usually PRs... even tho there's a lot of WIFOM on that. Also, on this forum you can't just brand someone a lurker if they do one or two posts a day. That's the meta here, and most people stick to that. Lynching lurkers will prolly kill a PR or Mafia, but the risk of killing a PR is high... which is what makes me suspicious of you.

I'll wait for ian and mod's answer before sending in my role.

I simply didn't have the time, I was quite busy, sorry about that.

List of people who didn't tell me their role yet:

1) Zawadx
2) Sub
3) Brusterix

[Submachine]

Not anymore. Check PMs.

[iancudorinmarian]

Not anymore. Check PMs.

Yeah, just received it.

List:

1) Zawadx
2) Brusterix

[CrockettRocket]

"Phase Spider - The body of the deceased is consumed.  Civilians will not discover the role of the deceased."
Now with emphasis...
Phase Spider - The body of the deceased is consumed.  Civilians will not discover the role of the deceased.
Mafia are not civilians, thus they see the body of the consumed, oh snap. Mod already answered

Anyway, Root, for you saying that you are not golden nymph. Yes it would make me believe you're civilian if you were to do that, but Im HIGHLY against such a thing. We already have a plan set in motion, no need to give mafia more information than necessary. Im just surprised you havnt died yet.