Elements Mafia 42 - by theelkspeaks

[CrockettRocket]

Ians list*

[eljoemo]

Whoops, I meant that one. Thanks ghost of Crockett

[DoubleCapitals]

Hey guys, I was out of town last two (RL) days, I'll pounder my vote later and make my case.

[Elbirn]

Qwerter (1) - Elbirn

 

Reasoning:
The past few nights the mafia has been lynching exclusively from the suspicious list, leaving only eljoemo, the "most" suspicious, against two supposedly non suspicious. It sounds like a no brainer that we would lynch him. Root and Ian both declared him likely of being a mafia, and several people have tried to bandwagon him the whole game. Sounds like a perfect fit.

But if the lone mafia were one of the suspicious...Why would he take out his "cover"? Removing all other suspicious players leaves himself to be lynched, and then gg. On the other hand, the nonsuspicious players were left alone..Almost as a shield.

I have therefore deduced that the last mafioso must be either Qwerter or myself. As I know that I am not mafia, I must vote for Qwerter.

Granted there could be some kind of WIFOM if the mafia is eljoemo, who reasoned that someone would make the same deduction I did. But, correct me if I'm wrong, and I mean no offense joe, I don't believe joe has been in that many mafia and I'm not certain he would know of such a tactic? At any rate I find it more likely that he is innocent.

More stream of consciousness reasoning babbling that I don't know how to weave into a coherent paragraph. Whereas eljoemo has just been mostly quiet and making hardly more than his votes, Qwerter has been more of an active lurker; posting often, but never posting anything helpful for town. And I find that to be more scummy than just being inactive.

[DoubleCapitals]

I find Elbrin's reasoning to be biased, I do not believe that I have committed "active lurking", I did not do more than to vote (or tell others to help me do so), I attribute this to exams like I said. And to be honest I was really lazy this time, with plans that others carried out I need not actually do much, and I'll come clean, I'm a VT. I do not have to pay attention to what to do at night.

That said, I buy eljoemo's case more. I trust you with the gavel.

qwerter (1) - Elbirn
Elbrin(1) - qwerter

[eljoemo]

... well shit

Okay, seeing as I'm tie breaking, I'm just gonna go with my instincts. I think qwerter is the most suspicious. He seemed opposed to a lot of stuff towards the start of the game, ie a mass roleclaim. Aside from that, it's just a complete hunch. It may as well be 50:50 at this point.

qwerter (2) - Elbirn, eljoemo
Elbirn (1) - qwerter

[Elbirn]

Aaaand times up. That's the game, gentlemen.

[theelkspeaks]

Time has ended.  The town has decided to lynch qwerter with it's final lynch attempt.

qwerter was a Gnome Rider.  eljoemo, a Wyrm, has been endgamed.

Elbirn was the Phase Dragon.  The mafia (Elbirn, Submachine, Frozengaia, and Zawadx) has won the game! 

  reigns!

[CrockettRocket]

glad i died last round... elbirn is the last person i wouldve voted for

[eljoemo]

Oh god damn it!

I messed up, sorry qwerter, and everyone else.

Well played Elbirn, well played indeed...

EDIT: Forgot to say, thanks for hosting Elk and good job!

[RootRanger]

I should not have been wrong about Brusterix. Something went wrong, and I would like to know what it was.

I had Brusterix target ian in night 3, and ian targeted Brusterix that same night. The following day I asked Brusterix if he had received any sort of notification from theelkspeaks. Had he been the Armagio, he would have received a PM saying his ability failed. But Brusterix claimed to receive no such message, which made me think he was only pretending to be the Armagio.

Elk, could you shine some light on what happened here? Did ian never target Brusterix? Did Brusterix lie about using his ability?

Also, this quote left me quite infuriated.

In the meantime, move your votes on eljoemo. It’s a bet. sky is innocent, elk just sent a wrong message, so from a confirmed mafia sky became a confirmed civvy. Move my vote to eljoemo as well. Root said that he might be salvger, so let’s try.

I told ian that eljoemo appeared to be non- based on my Golden Nymph ability. I said that it was possible, however, that eljoemo was actually the Salvager. Obviously eljoemo was less likely to be mafia than the rest of the vanillas, but ian must have not figured this out.

I'm fine when people make stupid moves in mafia, such as trying to lynch the vanilla civilian who is least likely to be mafia. The problem is when people attribute these stupid moves to me, when that is not at all the case.

Yes, it's true that eljoemo might have been the Salvager - literally any of the vanilla civilians could have been the Salvager! Targeting the only vanilla civilian who we know cannot possibly be the Phase Dragon - well, that's just absurd.

[theelkspeaks]

Elk, could you shine some light on what happened here? Did ian never target Brusterix? Did Brusterix lie about using his ability?

This was probably my fault in terms of the role interactions with Warden.  Individuals are notified if their ability fails due to a Warden protection, but if the Armagio targets a player that wasn't targeted for the kill, his ability didn't fail.  I realize the role interactions in terms of Warden were a bit of a mess; that's definitely a thing I'll try to smooth out the clarity of next time I make a game.