Elements Mafia 42 - by theelkspeaks

[RootRanger]

Yeah, I had a feeling someone would say that. And I'm cannot prove with 100% reliability that we are both civilians, unfortunately.

But consider the possibility that ian and I were both mafia. The Golden Nymph would simply target one of us, and if we proved to be Aether, two members of the mafia would be wiped out and have nothing to gain from it.

The only way it would actually work for ian and I to be mafia is if both the Warden and the Golden Nymph have already died. But even this would be a stupid plan, because if ian was required to target somebody with his ability, he would be unable to do so.

Again, I'm not saying I can prove 100% that ian is a civilan, but it would be an incredibly stupid strategy for two mafia members to reveal themselves in this situation.

[UTAlan]

Decent counter argument. I'm mostly convinced, but wanna wait for more input before I commit to this 100%, in case I'm missing something that someone else sees.

[CrockettRocket]

Ehh, warden gonna die tonight. (POSTING THIS SO IT SHOWS IM NOT INACTIVE)

[Submachine]

Now it's getting interesting. Waiting for iancu to confirm.

[Submachine]

Ehh, warden gonna die tonight. (POSTING THIS SO IT SHOWS IM NOT INACTIVE)

Not necessarily, because if the Armagio is still alive, he/she can protect Warden.

[iancudorinmarian]

Yeah, I am the warden. I have received 3 roles until now. Anybody who doesn't send me his role will be suspect.

[Espithel]

Well, whilst we're all doing that, I would like to start the lynching season.

I would like to kill the lurkers in the group, because I'm a fan of tropes.
Skyironsword (1) - Frozengaia


What? You expected a spoiler of opinions? ... Yeah, I was going a bit too overkill with those. And I'm currently too hyper to do one.

[Espithel]

EBWOP:

As for who I consider lurkers, that would be:
Sky (duh),
Brusterix,
qwerter,
Fippe,
Ian (but he's claimed warden so voting on him will be quite silly),
And Eljoemo.


Discuss.

[DoubleCapitals]

I would like to kill the lurkers in the group, because I'm a fan of tropes.

As for who I consider lurkers, that would be:
Sky (duh),
Brusterix,
qwerter,
Fippe,
Ian (but he's claimed warden so voting on him will be quite silly),
And Eljoemo.

This is hiliarious. I thought I posted quite a lot on my opinions.

Skyironsword (1) - Frozengaia
Frozengaia (1) - qwerter

[Espithel]

Well now, if the others think you're not lurking and are active, then I'm more than happy to go with them.
If someone else has a better idea, they're utterly free to state that, too.

But until then, we need to start discussing who to lynch, and it doesn't matter how flawed and silly the argument is, as long as it gives us more information.

And sure, we could just wait for Ian to tell us who to lynch, but why don't we harvest just a biiiit more information beforehand? You know, maximize our "freely talk with everyone" time? Because we do enough sitting around at night as it is.

Or at least I do. Very itchy.

[DoubleCapitals]

If warden is cleared, I recommend that people also claim specific cards. Townies have no incentive to lie, hence we might just weed a some contradictory claims.

@Frozen: Your case on me lurking? Last page I posted like, twice.

[Espithel]

Well, it's just my opinion, mostly, so it's probably not that strong/good, but for the discussion:
Note, that by lurking, I'm not just talking about how much you post.
I'm also measuring how much one contributes to the town's discussion.
Active lurking is when someone posts rather bland/uninteresting commentary, just to look like they're not lurking, even though they kinda still are.

As for qwerter, all you really did day 1 was point out Submachine's misplay of not reading his lolling role PM.
Which... Yeah, that was kinda useful. I can let the first day kinda slide. Not too incriminating.

Day two is where the fun is, and I feel you've been dismissing some potential possibilities.

It could be either way, either CR is having a bad town play by telling everyone to reveal roles to him while he's not cleared OR the mafia is puppeting him to do so. There, nothing else to see here, time to contemplate the vote later.

Which, well, this could be nicely countered that you DID give your opinion on Crockett, which I did, indeed, later use to weigh the decision of a policy lynch on Crockett. So, yeah, this is fine.


Then you made a vote on Nepy... Can I ask why? You haven't mentioned why, anywhere.

Next post, which is the one I'm looking at:

I'm completely ignoring the beef with CR. His play is pretty hard to decipher, and I've never played much with him anyway. Too much WIFOM

(By this point, Frozen has realised that his argument has pretty much fallen apart and he will take this time to apologize to qwerter and remove him from his opinionated list of lurkers. Thank you. - Espithel)
I can understand not studying a WIFOM, but it is useful to care about them and study them nontheless. They can still be used as evidence,but they're just not go-to lynches.

Then you voted on Kuro... Who then died.
... Hm.

And then you asked why Coffee was getting lynched, and told him to claim his role if he was a PR.


And then, here we are now.
...

Yeah, I'll just drop you from that list.
Also add Zawadx and Elbirn to it.
My apologies.


Frozengaia's probably horribly inaccurate lurker list (maybe):
Sky,
Brusterix,
Zawadx,
Elbirn,
Fippe,
Eljoemo.

Anyone else want to discuss the lurker list?