Elements Mafia 42 - by theelkspeaks

[DoubleCapitals]

I'm completely ignoring the beef with CR. His play is pretty hard to decipher, and I've never played much with him anyway. Too much WIFOM

[UTAlan]

This is the second day in a row ian doesn't want a no-lynch, despite it being clearly communicated that until we know more, lynching is more likely to help the mafia than us.

CrockettRocket (2) - Frozengaia, iancudorinmarian
eljoemo (1) - Elbirn
Nepycros (1) - qwerter
Fippe94 (1) - Dm132
iancudorinmarian (2) - CrockettRocket, UTAlan

[Espithel]

Spoiler for UTAlan:

Anyway. It seems to me that if the rules are going to allow us to continue no-lynching every day, there'ssss...Pretty much zero incentive to lynch during the day until we get any information/confirm a mafia. Kind of a fail on the hosts part for allowing such a thing imo, but it works out for us.

...
Okay, I'm going to have to explain why this is a disgusting idea.
I mean, even if it was a good idea, I would refuse to refuse to play the game.

There is one cop in the game, known as the golden nymph.
There are 17 different people alive.
Four are mafia.
So that's 13 people the mafia have to kill. This means the townies are dead by day 14, without lynches.
The cop has to examine 16 of these different roles. Assuming it already has viewed one, it's day 16 until he's examined everyone. He's also going to have to come out, which the mafia can easily fake claim the nymph early and disrupt this entire plan.

The phase salvager deceives the cop, so we can't just follow the cop.
Meanwhile, the mafia will be killing us.
The phase spider ability means we don't know if we just lost the cop. They will, though.
So if this plan backfires, we're at a strong disadvantage. In fact, the later it backfires, the more of a disadvantage we're at.
So... No.
Last day's no vote had a reason - We don't know what Root's plan is.
Now we do. So I don't see a problem in executing it if able.
And if we can't execute it, I think it would be safe to assume that Mathman was the warden (Citation needed.)

*Cough*

... Although, I guess we can wait until day three...
But waiting for longer than that will harm us.

If the warden plan doesn't come into fruition by the next day, I think it would be of good idea to just drop it and focus on our instinct.

Oh well. Yes, then... Today, a no-lynch would be best. Unless someone else can show us some mafia.

[iancudorinmarian]

The civilians wouldn't be dead on day 14 by the way, it would be day 9, since then it would be 4 civilians vs 4 mafia. (all mafia will vote on a civilian, all civilians on a mafia, that means no lynch and then it's game over, since they can NK one of them and then lynch-kill-lynch)

[UTAlan]

I totally get not wanting to "refuse to play the game." I'm up for lynching a suspected mafia if we have a reason for the suspicion actually related to this game. Just guessing at this point heavily favors mafia.

[Dm]

Lolwat.

[Espithel]

The civilians wouldn't be dead on day 14 by the way, it would be day 9, since then it would be 4 civilians vs 4 mafia. (all mafia will vote on a civilian, all civilians on a mafia, that means no lynch and then it's game over, since they can NK one of them and then lynch-kill-lynch)

This is true, my apologies.
And also true is that, with one nymph, it would take about day 9 for the nymph to research everyone, not day 16, because the mafia will likely kill off untaught members.

I totally get not wanting to "refuse to play the game." I'm up for lynching a suspected mafia if we have a reason for the suspicion actually related to this game. Just guessing at this point heavily favors mafia.

Yes, this is also true.

Lolwat.

Walrus.


Okay, I was kinda hyper there. So now I'm going to calm down and ignore this topic until tomorrow...
Because I think I'm overdoing the posts here.

[DoubleCapitals]

CrockettRocket (2) - Frozengaia, iancudorinmarian
eljoemo (1) - Elbirn
Kuroaitou (1) - qwerter
Fippe94 (1) - Dm132
iancudorinmarian (2) - CrockettRocket, UTAlan
Rather vote an inactive.

[Fippe94]

Reason I didn't post last day was that I had no idea who to vote for, and I had nothing to say.

CrockettRocket (2) - Frozengaia, iancudorinmarian
eljoemo (2) - Elbirn, Fippe94
Kuroaitou (1) - qwerter
Fippe94 (1) - Dm1321
iancudorinmarian (2) - CrockettRocket, UTAlan

Random vote for the sake of it, just to keep the numbers even (for a no-lynch).

[Zawadx]

CrockettRocket (3) - CrockettRocket, Frozengaia, iancudorinmarian
eljoemo (1) - Elbirn
Nepycros (1) - qwerter
Fippe94 (1) - Dm132

If we're just going to just no-lynch all day, this game will last too long and we'll eventually lose anyway, so let's take a chance.

So far those are the votes for day2, and here are the votes for day1.
Nepycros (6) - Nepycros, Coffeeditto, UTAlan, mathman101, Dm1321, Zawadx
CrockettRocket (6) - CrockettRocket, Brusterix, Elbirn, eljoemo, RootRanger, Frozengaia
skyironsword (1) - Submachine
Fippe94 (1) - Kuroaitou
iancudorinmarian (1) - iancudorinmarian

And Ill be changing today's vote:
CrockettRocket (2) - Frozengaia, iancudorinmarian
eljoemo (1) - Elbirn
Nepycros (1) - qwerter
Fippe94 (1) - Dm132
iancudorinmarian (1) - CrockettRocket
My reasoning: Mafia players could vote on themselves to avoid suspicion, and ian had typically no other reason to vote on himself when me and nepy we're drawing the tie. I also just get a bad feeling about his gameplay this mafia compared to others. As for your comment frozen, I have not talked to -anyone- yet.

Dude, read. Ian originally wished to break the tie, but then he decided to not do so since it was bad for town. Thus he moved his vote away from Nepy. If you can't read 5 pages before voting, I don't even

And, the fact is, lynching gives us a 4/13 shot of killing a mafia. Not lynching gives us a zero chance of killing one. Yeah, random guessing isn't the way to go, so it's better if everyone posts. But we most likely won't get that, so we've gotta be proactive. Plus my knife is thirsty.

Root's plan... work you stupid son of a biscuit! But if it doesn't, then we'll have to concoct a new plan, or play it old school by analyzing plays and killing off likely mafia. So unless anyone has a plan, we're really gonna have to work our way towards lynches. TBH I'm not sure if there's any foolproof plan with this setting (kudos elk), so I'm more inclined to choose the old school route.

Vote when I'm less hungry.

[eljoemo]

CrockettRocket (2) - Frozengaia, iancudorinmarian
eljoemo (2) - Elbirn, Fippe94
Kuroaitou (1) - qwerter
Fippe94 (1) - Dm1321
iancudorinmarian (3) - CrockettRocket, UTAlan, eljoemo

On the basis that no-voting is not a great idea, that Crockett is either a terrible mafia or an even worse townie (so he's really doing no harm) and that I'm me, so I'm not gonna lynch myself, right?

[iancudorinmarian]

On the basis that no-voting is not a great idea, that Crockett is either a terrible mafia or an even worse townie (so he's really doing no harm) and that I'm me, so I'm not gonna lynch myself, right?

And of course I'm not allowing you to lynch me.

CrockettRocket (1) - Frozengaia
eljoemo (3) - Elbirn, Fippe94, iancudorinmarian
Kuroaitou (1) - qwerter
Fippe94 (1) - Dm1321
iancudorinmarian (3) - CrockettRocket, UTAlan, eljoemo