*Author

Offline iancudorinmarian

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3772
  • Country: ro
  • Reputation Power: 67
  • iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.
  • Master of Ponies.Eternally salty about War#11 SEC.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 11th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeWar #12 Winner - Team Darkness12th Trials - Master of EntropyWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 9th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner11th Trials - Master of EntropySlice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeWinner of TrinityWinner of Team PvP #710th Trials - Master of EntropySlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament Winner9th Trials - Master of EntropyWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 5th Birthday Cake
Re: Elements Mafia 41 - by dawn to dusk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55118.msg1147561#msg1147561
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2014, 09:54:09 pm »
It's not that we're all getting crazy, it's just that we all try to make it special and maybe we overdo it sometimes.

I think that the "no roleclaim asking" rule would be a very good addition.

Plus, you were the one who made us all roleclaim in the lasr mafias  :P (just joking, pretty much everyone would have adopted the same strategy in these cases)

Offline dawn to dusk

  • Master of Light
  • *
  • ******
  • Posts: 2693
  • Country: aq
  • Reputation Power: 53
  • dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.
  • Awards: 14th Trials - Master of LightSlice of Elements 11th Birthday Cake13th Trials - Master of LightWar #12 - Sportsmanship AwardSlice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeCard Design Competition - The Fool Winner12th Trials - Master of LightDeckbuilding Competition - Elelections WinnerSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Design July 2015 - Bronze9th Trials - Master of LifeWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeWar #8 - Sportsmanship Award8th Trials - Master of LifeSlice of Elements 5th Birthday Cake
Re: Elements Mafia 41 - by dawn to dusk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55118.msg1147564#msg1147564
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2014, 10:13:11 pm »
I know exactly what you mean. I used the same tactics in my mafia. Problem with this however, is that because there will only be 2 scum per-team, the odds of them winning is low unless they get special secondary roles scaled up a bit to compensate with the fact that there are 2 per team. I can scale down the light ability to say, 5 roles and 1 per night which would be a lot better imo, however, it will depend on what others think.

Now for the other questions.

The last two mafias had a couple...problems. This time I'd like to get them sorted out before the game begins. It's nothing personal.

Anyway, what sets this mafia apart from the rest is that there are TWO mafia teams, as well as a survivor to go with each mafia team! How this will work is each night phase, the two scum teams will get a kill each. If, by chance, they target the same person, they will get an overkill message and a cookie.
Who is notified that the two mafias targeted the same player? The mafias? The player who was targeted? Everyone?
i was thinking everyone, however, I might just do the mafia and the person targeted for balancing purposes.

They may work together if they wish, however, it will ultimately come down to 1 mafia team or the civilians as the winner(s). The survivors will only be able to win if they end the game alive with either their respective mafia team, or the civilians. If they are killed, or they endgame with the opposing mafia team, they will lose.
This is unfair. Everyone else wins if their side wins, but the Survivors have to stay alive. Seriously? Usually, most of the players die before the game ends. The odds are horrendously stacked against the Survivors.
sorry, however I am not entirely sure what the problem is. In tons of more official mafias, survivor is used very consistently with a half decent win-rate. As another example, I was survivor in kuro's mafia. In the right hands, people have a very good chance of winning.

Life
Passive and EoR
Lesser Angelic
Receives bonuses from angelic mafia (Passive) | Protect target from death for the next night (EoR)

Death
Passive
Lesser Demonic
Receives bonuses from demonic mafia (Passive) | When lynched, can target one player and kill them.
These players are civilians, correct?
correct. They win if they are alive with civilians and lose if they are alive with mafia.

Earth
Passive
Stone Skin
Avoids killing via lynch or NK twice.
Is anyone informed that the Stone Skin ability was used?
the user is informed.

Time
ER
Golden Hourglass
Target player may use it's ability a second time during this night phase. 
Ok this sounds nice, but how will the target know he can use his ability a second time? Should everyone just send in multiple targets just to be safe?
either that night or the next night. If they don't use it that night, they can use it the next. They cannot use an ability 3 times per-night though.

Fire
OU
Red Nymph
Target 2 players. The next day, voting can only be between them.
Does this mean that only these two players can vote, only these two players can be voted on, or both? And are we informed of who these two players are?
only those two players can be voted on. I will say at the beginning of the day which players can be voted on.

Water
OU
Nymph Tears
Target a player. You will gain their secondary role (may be used again if target is vanilla).
Can the secondary role be used the night that Nymph Tears was used, or only the following night?
I'm most likely going to change this to a miller ability as to not be able to have a confirmed civilian. If I don't , it will not.

Angelic King
8xOU
Angel God
Is given 8 OU abilities to use. The effects of these abilities are hidden. Can only use up to 2 per night phase.
What?
Seriously, what?
This has the potential to make the rules horrifically imbalanced, and we wouldn't even know.
see the start of the post. I will balance it to all my power.

Demonic Lord
OU
Nightmare
The next night phase, any person who targets a demonic mafia member dies instantly.
By "instantly," does this mean players would actually die in the middle of the night phase?
yes. The abilities have no effect and anyone who targets them will be unable to save them.

And lastly, the most important question of all: what is stopping the first confirmed civilian from deducing who all the mafia are simply by asking for a mass roleclaim? Because this is exactly how the last two games went, and I'm damn tired of it.
once I am finished tinkering with the rules, there will be no way to get a confirmed civilian other than deduction. Miller also provides an alternative. So would a godfather though...

All in all, I will provide abilities that will make things confusing (miller, maybe godfather instead of angelic god). This will hopefully have role claims obsolete and not have a way to have a reliable role claim at all


Again, nothing personal. Your rules are not any worse than the ones I've seen before. This time, I'm just going to try to do something about it.

Offline RootRanger

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3118
  • Reputation Power: 51
  • RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.
  • R A I N B R O S
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 13th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 9th Birthday Cake10th Trials - Master of FireElemental Conquest WinnerWriting Competition - Across(tic) the World of ElementsWeekly Tournament Winner1st Grandmaster Battle Winner - FireThere Can Be Only One - 2016 WinnerGold DonorChampionship League 2/2015 2nd Place9th Trials - Master of FireElements: A Game of Politics - WinnerEnder of War War #8 Winner - Team FireWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerChampionship League 1/2013 WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWar #4 Winner - Team DeathChampionship League 3/2011 3rd PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerBeginners League 2/2011 2nd PlaceWeekly PvP Tournament WinnerWeekly PvP Tournament WinnerBeginners League 1/2011 2nd PlaceWeekly PvP Tournament Winner
Re: Elements Mafia 41 - by dawn to dusk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55118.msg1147589#msg1147589
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2014, 12:22:38 am »
sorry, however I am not entirely sure what the problem is. In tons of more official mafias, survivor is used very consistently with a half decent win-rate. As another example, I was survivor in kuro's mafia. In the right hands, people have a very good chance of winning.
Regular civilians simply need the civilians to win in order to be victorious. The Life and Death survivors need not only the civilians to win, but they need to survive themselves. Considering the majority of players will die, the chance of winning as a Survivor is less than half of the chance of winning as a civilian.

Why are you punishing these players simply for receiving a role decided at random?

either that night or the next night. If they don't use it that night, they can use it the next. They cannot use an ability 3 times per-night though.
So, let me get this straight. I know with certainty that you cannot possibly be online 24 hours a day, which means there may be a delay between when the Hourglass uses his ability and when you send the message to the Hourglass's target. If you're not active enough, or if the time zones simply don't work out by sheer coincidence, the ability would not work as intended. The actions of the night phase depend on your own forum activity and the time zones of the players involved. That's just stupid. The Hourglass ability should instead apply to the night phase after it's used.

see the start of the post. I will balance it to all my power.
But why are you hiding the full rules from the players? I'm fine with probability - at least you have something to work with. But you're literally not telling the rules to the civilians. I should hope I'm not the only one who thinks this is a problem.
Somehow still around, somewhat

Offline RootRanger

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3118
  • Reputation Power: 51
  • RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.
  • R A I N B R O S
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 13th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 9th Birthday Cake10th Trials - Master of FireElemental Conquest WinnerWriting Competition - Across(tic) the World of ElementsWeekly Tournament Winner1st Grandmaster Battle Winner - FireThere Can Be Only One - 2016 WinnerGold DonorChampionship League 2/2015 2nd Place9th Trials - Master of FireElements: A Game of Politics - WinnerEnder of War War #8 Winner - Team FireWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerChampionship League 1/2013 WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWar #4 Winner - Team DeathChampionship League 3/2011 3rd PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerBeginners League 2/2011 2nd PlaceWeekly PvP Tournament WinnerWeekly PvP Tournament WinnerBeginners League 1/2011 2nd PlaceWeekly PvP Tournament Winner
Re: Elements Mafia 41 - by dawn to dusk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55118.msg1147590#msg1147590
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2014, 12:26:00 am »
Oh, one more thing I forgot.

Demonic Lord's kills should occur at the end of the night.

If the kills happen instantly, then players can avoid being killed by not using their ability as soon as they see that Demonic Lord has killed someone. Not only is this a bad thing because the best strategy depends on how active of a host you are, but it encourages players to wait as long as they possibly can before using their abilities in the night phase. This gives an advantage to players who can appear right before the deadline simply because of their timezone. Is that not unfair?
Somehow still around, somewhat

Offline theelkspeaks

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1587
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 35
  • theelkspeaks is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.theelkspeaks is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.theelkspeaks is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.theelkspeaks is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.theelkspeaks is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.theelkspeaks is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.theelkspeaks is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.
  • Brave Freedom is the Golden Ticket
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerChampionship League 2/2015 3rd Place9th Trials - Master of EarthSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeForum Brawl #4 WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerSilver DonorBattle League 1/2014 3rd PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 5th Birthday CakeC-C-C Combomaker 3# Winner
Re: Elements Mafia 41 - by dawn to dusk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55118.msg1147591#msg1147591
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2014, 12:34:35 am »
Oh, one more thing I forgot.

Demonic Lord's kills should occur at the end of the night.

If the kills happen instantly, then players can avoid being killed by not using their ability as soon as they see that Demonic Lord has killed someone. Not only is this a bad thing because the best strategy depends on how active of a host you are, but it encourages players to wait as long as they possibly can before using their abilities in the night phase. This gives an advantage to players who can appear right before the deadline simply because of their timezone. Is that not unfair?

I interpreted instantly differently than you.  I interpreted instantly to mean that the kill resolves before night actions, but is still revealed at dawn.
Brawl 3 - Team Whispers in the  :darkness, War 8 - :air, 9th Master - :earth, War 9 - :earth, War 10 - :fire
Mafia Record: Town 3-4, Mafia 2-1
Brawl 4 - Red Stars (:fire)
My EtG Videos!

Offline dawn to dusk

  • Master of Light
  • *
  • ******
  • Posts: 2693
  • Country: aq
  • Reputation Power: 53
  • dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.
  • Awards: 14th Trials - Master of LightSlice of Elements 11th Birthday Cake13th Trials - Master of LightWar #12 - Sportsmanship AwardSlice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeCard Design Competition - The Fool Winner12th Trials - Master of LightDeckbuilding Competition - Elelections WinnerSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Design July 2015 - Bronze9th Trials - Master of LifeWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeWar #8 - Sportsmanship Award8th Trials - Master of LifeSlice of Elements 5th Birthday Cake
Re: Elements Mafia 41 - by dawn to dusk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55118.msg1147592#msg1147592
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2014, 12:37:18 am »
sorry, however I am not entirely sure what the problem is. In tons of more official mafias, survivor is used very consistently with a half decent win-rate. As another example, I was survivor in kuro's mafia. In the right hands, people have a very good chance of winning.
Regular civilians simply need the civilians to win in order to be victorious. The Life and Death survivors need not only the civilians to win, but they need to survive themselves. Considering the majority of players will die, the chance of winning as a Survivor is less than half of the chance of winning as a civilian.

Why are you punishing these players simply for receiving a role decided at random?
im not the first person to do it, and i wont be the last. there have been countless uses of survivor. i was the survivor in kuro's mafia and i still found it enjoyable as it provided an alternative way to play. if kuro does it, it must be good ^^

that said, i dont expect everyone to like every ability. there are going to be abilities that people dont like. thats just how it goes i guess


either that night or the next night. If they don't use it that night, they can use it the next. They cannot use an ability 3 times per-night though.
So, let me get this straight. I know with certainty that you cannot possibly be online 24 hours a day, which means there may be a delay between when the Hourglass uses his ability and when you send the message to the Hourglass's target. If you're not active enough, or if the time zones simply don't work out by sheer coincidence, the ability would not work as intended. The actions of the night phase depend on your own forum activity and the time zones of the players involved. That's just stupid. The Hourglass ability should instead apply to the night phase after it's used.
ill fix. that seems a better idea

see the start of the post. I will balance it to all my power.
But why are you hiding the full rules from the players? I'm fine with probability - at least you have something to work with. But you're literally not telling the rules to the civilians. I should hope I'm not the only one who thinks this is a problem.

im going to change this ability into a godfather anyway. its not too important

Oh, one more thing I forgot.

Demonic Lord's kills should occur at the end of the night.

If the kills happen instantly, then players can avoid being killed by not using their ability as soon as they see that Demonic Lord has killed someone. Not only is this a bad thing because the best strategy depends on how active of a host you are, but it encourages players to wait as long as they possibly can before using their abilities in the night phase. This gives an advantage to players who can appear right before the deadline simply because of their timezone. Is that not unfair?

I interpreted instantly differently than you.  I interpreted instantly to mean that the kill resolves before night actions, but is still revealed at dawn.
this

Offline RootRanger

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3118
  • Reputation Power: 51
  • RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.RootRanger brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.
  • R A I N B R O S
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 13th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 9th Birthday Cake10th Trials - Master of FireElemental Conquest WinnerWriting Competition - Across(tic) the World of ElementsWeekly Tournament Winner1st Grandmaster Battle Winner - FireThere Can Be Only One - 2016 WinnerGold DonorChampionship League 2/2015 2nd Place9th Trials - Master of FireElements: A Game of Politics - WinnerEnder of War War #8 Winner - Team FireWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerChampionship League 1/2013 WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWar #4 Winner - Team DeathChampionship League 3/2011 3rd PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerBeginners League 2/2011 2nd PlaceWeekly PvP Tournament WinnerWeekly PvP Tournament WinnerBeginners League 1/2011 2nd PlaceWeekly PvP Tournament Winner
Re: Elements Mafia 41 - by dawn to dusk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55118.msg1147595#msg1147595
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2014, 12:53:53 am »
Good, thanks.

Everything seems fine except the Survivor. So what if it's been done before? Lots of bad things have been done before. The fact of the matter is that the Survivor has a lower chance of winning than the rest of the players. If you're adamant about including it in the game, then perhaps we could award double Master of Mafia points for winning as a Survivor?
Somehow still around, somewhat

Offline BumbleSting

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 77
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 2
  • BumbleSting is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • If I mess up, feel free to yell at me
  • Awards: Weekly Tournament Winner
Re: Elements Mafia 41 - by dawn to dusk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55118.msg1147596#msg1147596
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2014, 12:57:44 am »
Sign me up  :P

I'm excited for this
Be Happy!

Offline dawn to dusk

  • Master of Light
  • *
  • ******
  • Posts: 2693
  • Country: aq
  • Reputation Power: 53
  • dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.dawn to dusk brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.
  • Awards: 14th Trials - Master of LightSlice of Elements 11th Birthday Cake13th Trials - Master of LightWar #12 - Sportsmanship AwardSlice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeCard Design Competition - The Fool Winner12th Trials - Master of LightDeckbuilding Competition - Elelections WinnerSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Design July 2015 - Bronze9th Trials - Master of LifeWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeWar #8 - Sportsmanship Award8th Trials - Master of LifeSlice of Elements 5th Birthday Cake
Re: Elements Mafia 41 - by dawn to dusk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55118.msg1147597#msg1147597
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2014, 12:58:16 am »
Good, thanks.

Everything seems fine except the Survivor. So what if it's been done before? Lots of bad things have been done before. The fact of the matter is that the Survivor has a lower chance of winning than the rest of the players. If you're adamant about including it in the game, then perhaps we could award double Master of Mafia points for winning as a Survivor?
im fine with that, we'll need to ask kuro though

* dawn to dusk pokes kuro

Offline skyironsword

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2339
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 40
  • skyironsword soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.skyironsword soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.skyironsword soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.skyironsword soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.skyironsword soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.skyironsword soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.skyironsword soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.skyironsword soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.
  • Yuri Incarnation
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 5th Birthday Cake
Re: Elements Mafia 41 - by dawn to dusk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55118.msg1147600#msg1147600
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2014, 01:15:26 am »
In.

Offline DoubleCapitals

  • Master of Earth
  • *
  • Posts: 747
  • Country: sg
  • Reputation Power: 27
  • DoubleCapitals is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.DoubleCapitals is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.DoubleCapitals is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.DoubleCapitals is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.DoubleCapitals is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.
  • *whistle*
  • Awards: 14th Trials - Master of EarthSlice of Elements 11th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 9th Birthday Cake11th Trials - Master of TimeSlice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday Cake
Re: Elements Mafia 41 - by dawn to dusk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55118.msg1147609#msg1147609
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2014, 02:29:12 am »
Imo give the survivor a one-shot or maybe two-shot vest?
L R L R STOP & DASH & UP & TALK B B A B S(tart)

Offline KuroaitouTopic starter

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4662
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 82
  • Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 9th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeMaster of Mafia10th Trials - Master of TimeSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSilver DonorSlice of Elements 5th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner
Re: Elements Mafia 41 - by dawn to dusk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55118.msg1147616#msg1147616
« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2014, 06:30:40 am »
For the sake of balance dawn to dusk, I would advise you to NEVER rely on previous mafias as an act of balance. You should always look at your mafia and compare it to its potential self, as every game (regardless of whether it's a 'Classic' mafia like KDZ, a 'dethy' mafia [like the ones we've been having a lot lately...], or something completely different) must be judged on its own merit.

I honestly wished I had such feedback regarding my mafia skills by vets and non-vets alike to improve the quality of my games. Ignoring such suggestions would be disappointing at best for players, and extremely detrimental at worst as a host [imbalances either increase frustrations/complexity/exploits for the host to manage, and may reduce the chance of players entering your next hosting game]...

That being said, I will not go back and award 'double-points' for survivors in Master of Mafia unless there's a very clear discrepancy between mafia and non-mafia members within ALL of the mafia games - or you provide an insanely good critique of my current scoring system despite its boring/simple management.  :-[

 

blarg: