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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144141#msg1144141
« Reply #96 on: July 05, 2014, 03:00:50 pm »
Not every role is necessarily assigned,  so that could potentially end up as very dangerous.
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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144142#msg1144142
« Reply #97 on: July 05, 2014, 03:01:19 pm »
-PvP and Oracle keep using their abilities whenever they can. Donations guy should not use his ability under my plan, because it might interfere with the PvP guy

PVP and Oracle – I agree.
Donations Manager – Disagree, I think that's a powerful one.
If we search for the least usefule role, that may be AI0 Tutor (? – I'm not sure).
The bigger problem is that if my calculations are correct and the game is a 11:3:1 there are 3 Shards, 4 Moderators, 9 Roles and 1 Obnoxious Powered Monstrum and that's 17. In this case, two roles don't exist. Besides, the player who claims will get (most probably) at least 5 Moderator reads. (This happened in the previous game too, as far as I know.)
The best claim would be ZSader or Eccense, the two useless moderators – but, they should figure out their exact mod-role first. It's a catch-22 :-(


Basically that was what I strategised as town play. I of course have mafia and Third Party strategy too, but only an idiot would reveal that openly.
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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144143#msg1144143
« Reply #98 on: July 05, 2014, 03:03:51 pm »
Not every role is necessarily assigned,  so that could potentially end up as very dangerous.

Yes, I've said the same though, in a longer post.

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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144144#msg1144144
« Reply #99 on: July 05, 2014, 03:08:25 pm »
Right, we could end up with uncced mafia. That would wreck us. And I do see the danger of the mafia striaght away; if there is 3 mafia and 1 OP Monster, we could get knocked quickly. But the donations manager, should he use the ability at all? We need to collectively decide.

Take note we have up to 4 useful investigative roles, if we count PvP/Oracle.

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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144146#msg1144146
« Reply #100 on: July 05, 2014, 03:29:53 pm »
Right, we could end up with uncced mafia. That would wreck us. And I do see the danger of the mafia striaght away; if there is 3 mafia and 1 OP Monster, we could get knocked quickly. But the donations manager, should he use the ability at all? We need to collectively decide.

No claim is useful right now. However, if any of the Moderators find out that they're ZSader or Eccense must claim immediately. Any ideas about the shortest possible way to reach this phase?

The Donations Manager definitely should use his/her ability. F-ck yeah, Shard abilities for the town! I think the skill should be used at least 'till the point to check what kind of Shard ability can the DM have. (ZawadX, is it random?) It can be still decided having known the exact Shard how to use it and when. By the way, qwerter, the Donations Manager does not interfere with the PVP Negotiator, I think. It interferes with the Special Spin Manager.

 
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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144147#msg1144147
« Reply #101 on: July 05, 2014, 03:31:31 pm »
Can I change my vote?

Justaburd has to pay for destroying my only grasp of sanity in this world...

Now I'll start ranting on about pizza demons. Demon pizza. Pizza made out of demons. Demonic toppings made out of pizza made out of demons. Demon pizza on toast. Toast on demon pizza on toast on demonic demon pizza on toast made out of spandex.

Why have you done this to me ;-;

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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144148#msg1144148
« Reply #102 on: July 05, 2014, 03:35:00 pm »
Right, we could end up with uncced mafia. That would wreck us. And I do see the danger of the mafia striaght away; if there is 3 mafia and 1 OP Monster, we could get knocked quickly. But the donations manager, should he use the ability at all? We need to collectively decide.

No claim is useful right now. However, if any of the Moderators find out that they're ZSader or Eccense must claim immediately. Any ideas about the shortest possible way to reach this phase?

The Donations Manager definitely should use his/her ability. F-ck yeah, Shard abilities for the town! I think the skill should be used at least 'till the point to check what kind of Shard ability can the DM have. (ZawadX, is it random?) It can be still decided having known the exact Shard how to use it and when. By the way, qwerter, the Donations Manager does not interfere with the PVP Negotiator, I think. It interferes with the Special Spin Manager.

 


Sorry, I think we need to clarify role order, because my concern is the Special Spin Manager allows people to find out people's skills, and indirectly their roles. If the usage of Donations is after Special Spins, there is no worries. If Special Spins comes after, then whoever Donations Manager gets swapped with will get a Shard ability (and the Donations Manager ability too? Idk, and if that is true, then there's no concern), which would herald as a red light.
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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144149#msg1144149
« Reply #103 on: July 05, 2014, 03:35:18 pm »
Can I change my vote?

Justaburd has to pay for destroying my only grasp of sanity in this world...

Now I'll start ranting on about pizza demons. Demon pizza. Pizza made out of demons. Demonic toppings made out of pizza made out of demons. Demon pizza on toast. Toast on demon pizza on toast on demonic demon pizza on toast made out of spandex.

Why have you done this to me ;-;
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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144150#msg1144150
« Reply #104 on: July 05, 2014, 03:37:34 pm »
Aye, the shard ability of the Donations Manager is determined randomly with every use of its skill from the available list. This includes the cooldowns)

Though if you wanna know about the DM's abilities, best person to ask would prolly be Dm1321 :P (jk of course)

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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144151#msg1144151
« Reply #105 on: July 05, 2014, 03:41:49 pm »
Dm1321 (1) - Justaburd
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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144152#msg1144152
« Reply #106 on: July 05, 2014, 03:44:50 pm »
Dm1321 (1) - Justaburd
justaburd (3) - Dawn to dusk, Dm1321, Frozengaia
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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144153#msg1144153
« Reply #107 on: July 05, 2014, 03:45:39 pm »
Right, we could end up with uncced mafia. That would wreck us. And I do see the danger of the mafia striaght away; if there is 3 mafia and 1 OP Monster, we could get knocked quickly. But the donations manager, should he use the ability at all? We need to collectively decide.

No claim is useful right now. However, if any of the Moderators find out that they're ZSader or Eccense must claim immediately. Any ideas about the shortest possible way to reach this phase?

The Donations Manager definitely should use his/her ability. F-ck yeah, Shard abilities for the town! I think the skill should be used at least 'till the point to check what kind of Shard ability can the DM have. (ZawadX, is it random?) It can be still decided having known the exact Shard how to use it and when. By the way, qwerter, the Donations Manager does not interfere with the PVP Negotiator, I think. It interferes with the Special Spin Manager.

 


Sorry, I think we need to clarify role order, because my concern is the Special Spin Manager allows people to find out people's skills, and indirectly their roles. If the usage of Donations is after Special Spins, there is no worries. If Special Spins comes after, then whoever Donations Manager gets swapped with will get a Shard ability (and the Donations Manager ability too? Idk, and if that is true, then there's no concern), which would herald as a red light.

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