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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144170#msg1144170
« Reply #120 on: July 05, 2014, 04:55:31 pm »
*Frozengaia hugs the corpse of the pigeon, trying to reanimate it*
We're avenging the death of this pigeon, Ian.

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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144171#msg1144171
« Reply #121 on: July 05, 2014, 04:59:42 pm »
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We're avenging the death of this pigeon, Ian.
B-but, why? :(

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« Reply #122 on: July 05, 2014, 05:00:40 pm »
Because this pigeon is my only ties to sanity...

So now I'm going to spam random things go crazy...

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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144192#msg1144192
« Reply #123 on: July 05, 2014, 07:30:59 pm »
RootRanger: I'm afraid for 15 players it will be 11:3:1 and not 12:2:1

What are your thoughts on the roles? You had a lot in #39 and they worked out pretty well.

It could be 2, or it could be 3. "1 less than approx. 20%" would mean 2 shards, 25% would be 3. I really hate such unclear rules. They erode the strategy involved in mafia by neglecting to yield accurate probabilities. Honestly, I'm just not even going to bother with this one. Voting for Frozen because he's annoying. Ian would be a close second choice.

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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144194#msg1144194
« Reply #124 on: July 05, 2014, 07:52:05 pm »
Root's right, the number of mafia members really should be revealed.
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« Reply #125 on: July 05, 2014, 07:54:29 pm »
Let's play it as a 3 to be on the safe side, then.

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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144211#msg1144211
« Reply #126 on: July 05, 2014, 10:39:46 pm »
Apart from Qwerter am I the only one who tries making up some tactics?
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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144212#msg1144212
« Reply #127 on: July 05, 2014, 10:41:57 pm »
I don't know how to play Mafia.

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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144230#msg1144230
« Reply #128 on: July 06, 2014, 02:22:17 am »


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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144252#msg1144252
« Reply #129 on: July 06, 2014, 05:35:58 am »

It could be 2, or it could be 3. "1 less than approx. 20%" would mean 2 shards, 25% would be 3. I really hate such unclear rules. They erode the strategy involved in mafia by neglecting to yield accurate probabilities. Honestly, I'm just not even going to bother with this one.

Ok, there are 3 Mafia. It's really no fun if you don't even bother to play :/ I'm sorry that the rules are so unclear, and please do ask any and all questions you might have so that the rules may become clearer :)
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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144255#msg1144255
« Reply #130 on: July 06, 2014, 06:06:38 am »
I said that it was 11:3:1.
By the way, have you all read those Shard abilities? From Day 2 they're going to tinker with the votes intentionally. (3 out of 4 Shard abilities are about Voting.) At least we'd need town/scum lists so as the Gamebots should choose (at least probably) good targets.

Qwerter is town in my opinion. Plenty of posts about possible strategies. Iancudorinmarian seems to be town, he did the very same "I have no idea" thing in #39. I think Frozengaia is town, but that's just a mere feeling.

Dm1321? You don't know how to play? Oh, no-no-no, I won't fall for that, you performed a good gameplay in #39. ^_^

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Re: Elements Mafia 40 - by Zawadx https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54887.msg1144257#msg1144257
« Reply #131 on: July 06, 2014, 06:45:10 am »
Thank you. I was never not going to play, it's just frustrating when you have to base your strategy around arbitrary assumptions. I would have been fine if the rules had stated there would be - say, a 50% chance you would use 20%, and a 50% chance you would use 25%, or something...I just don't like when we don't even know what the rules are. Anyways,

3 mafia means 7 of the 9 gamebots abilities are in play. It's a bit more difficult to get a confirmed civilian in Round 1 this way, and it's also probably too late right now.

The Arena mods should target themselves this round.

The two players targeted by the Oracle should reveal the skills they uncovered, in the following round. If it's two bots, that's be great, because then we get two (mostly) confirmed bots to whom we can send all our information. If it's one bot and one shard, the shard probably won't post. In that case, we have one bot who is mostly confirmed. The Oracle can then reveal to that bot who the other player was, and the bot can publicly post the identity of the shard. Of course, once we find a shard's identity, we want the mods to target that player before killing him.

Shakif is a very weak rule that will probably do more harm than good if it is used, unless we are certain it is being used on a shard.

AI0 should just target himself.

Upgrade Master could potentially be useful later in the game, but not yet.

Donations Manager should use the skill tonight. It can't hurt.

HP Counter should target me.

Lastly, the PvP Negotiator, actually a pretty decent role. This pretty much works like the Oracle. Just target two players, who should post what they find the next round.

I don't know what Ane is doing, but I'm fine with justa or frozen for the R1 lynch.
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