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Re: Elements Mafia 34 - by Elbirn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51550.msg1103718#msg1103718
« Reply #48 on: October 16, 2013, 10:09:15 pm »
Welll you didn't do anything, hence my confusion, hence me assuming you meant no vote. I seem to have missed your meaning :P
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Re: Elements Mafia 34 - by Elbirn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51550.msg1103722#msg1103722
« Reply #49 on: October 16, 2013, 10:27:44 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 34 - by Elbirn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51550.msg1103723#msg1103723
« Reply #50 on: October 16, 2013, 10:28:02 pm »
I was fishing for clues, but you threw a stick of dynamite into the water  >:(  :P

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Re: Elements Mafia 34 - by Elbirn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51550.msg1103725#msg1103725
« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2013, 10:32:35 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 34 - by Elbirn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51550.msg1103743#msg1103743
« Reply #52 on: October 16, 2013, 11:17:14 pm »
It should be noted that Beef did not continue the pattern and vote for Terro. If one turns out to be mafia, it is a little bit extra likely that the other is one as well.

Just something for future reference.

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Re: Elements Mafia 34 - by Elbirn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51550.msg1103745#msg1103745
« Reply #53 on: October 16, 2013, 11:24:53 pm »
I was fishing for clues, but you threw a stick of dynamite into the water  >:(  :P

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Re: Elements Mafia 34 - by Elbirn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51550.msg1103747#msg1103747
« Reply #54 on: October 16, 2013, 11:36:14 pm »
So, lets be real now. Are we going to just do this "Lottery" and whoever loses loses?

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Re: Elements Mafia 34 - by Elbirn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51550.msg1103753#msg1103753
« Reply #55 on: October 16, 2013, 11:54:21 pm »
It should be noted that Beef did not continue the pattern and vote for Terro. If one turns out to be mafia, it is a little bit extra likely that the other is one as well.

Just something for future reference.

Or I actually am the one who broke the pattern and didn't vote for mathman for the congo line or you due to your vote on me, both of which were simply because I have no information and don't want to actually try to get anyone lynched. Beef was just RNG from the remaining players.

So, lets be real now. Are we going to just do this "Lottery" and whoever loses loses?

In actuality it will come down to voting manipulation, assuming people use their abilities.
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Re: Elements Mafia 34 - by Elbirn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51550.msg1103757#msg1103757
« Reply #56 on: October 17, 2013, 12:04:57 am »
The main issue with doing it this way is we don't really gather anything useful from votes this round. The positive is that there is a 1/5 chance to kill an mafia member and only a 1/10 chance to kill a seer/doctor. That is, if everyone votes. Of course, that is somewhat true regardless during the first round, but this way you don't have a team of FG's that can influence who dies.

Also, we probably shouldn't assume that FG's won't vote for each other this round since a voting pattern has already been established.

Also, if EVERY round is done this way, completely at random, rounds should go like this, more or less...

R1 - 18 alive total, 4 mafia alive
R2 - 16 alive, 4 mafia
R3 - 14 alive, 3 mafia
R4 - 12 alive, 3 mafia
R5 - 10 alive, 2 mafia
etc.

And if we got lucky and the seer lived during this time or the doctor saved someone, we'd likely win. If someone wants to do the actual math about how often an FG would be killed at random, might be nice... I just took an educated guess. On average, the ratio should stay the same throughout the game at 1/5 players mafia at any given point, and having a seer/dotor SHOULD give the civilian side a mathematical advantage, I would think.

Edit: And good point, Terro, I missed that. And I didn't take voting manipulation into account for this... might mess up the numbers.
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Re: Elements Mafia 34 - by Elbirn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51550.msg1103767#msg1103767
« Reply #57 on: October 17, 2013, 01:29:30 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia 34 - by Elbirn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51550.msg1103769#msg1103769
« Reply #58 on: October 17, 2013, 01:41:15 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia 34 - by Elbirn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51550.msg1103776#msg1103776
« Reply #59 on: October 17, 2013, 02:30:52 am »
It should be noted that Beef did not continue the pattern and vote for Terro. If one turns out to be mafia, it is a little bit extra likely that the other is one as well.

Just something for future reference.

Beef was just RNG from the remaining players.
This. You voted on Terro to start, so I wasn't going to vote on him again (that would ruin the spirit of our lottery round).
I'm, like, 99% sure you only posted that because you want Terro dead asap x)
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