Elements Mafia 31 - By UnderneathTheLens

[Demagog]

So there are three possiblities:

1. UTL couldn't remember what Annele's role was and made him/her justaburdic this round.
2. Justaburdic was given to at least two people.
3. RootRanger was not justaburdic, and was Incarnate.

I'm going to guess it was the latter.

Something else, when looking at the voting from the round Root and Dawn were tied in voting and taking into account their abilities, I think it's likely that the other FG's voted for Root in order to keep dawn alive for the night phase so that he could use his ability (obliterator). Therefore, Calindu and Laxadarap are my suspicions.

Laxadarap (1) - Demagog

[Kuroaitou]

So there are three possiblities:

1. UTL couldn't remember what Annele's role was and made him/her justaburdic this round.
2. Justaburdic was given to at least two people.
3. RootRanger was not justaburdic, and was Incarnate.

I'm going to guess it was the latter.

Something else, when looking at the voting from the round Root and Dawn were tied in voting and taking into account their abilities, I think it's likely that the other FG's voted for Root in order to keep dawn alive for the night phase so that he could use his ability (obliterator). Therefore, Calindu and Laxadarap are my suspicions.

Laxadarap (1) - Demagog

Personal note Dema - if UTL actually did number (1), I would quit this game immediately out of pure frustration. I would be completely flabbergasted at the notion to simply -assign- another player a role if you forgot what role they were. If he was that desperate, he should simply PM people for their roles as a check-up instead. (This is why, as a Mafia host, you should keep the roles online in a cloud database-like system private to only you, so that you can't "delete" the file, and you can always access the roles without anyone else's knowledge).

I've done this before hosting F&H; it's not that hard to use Google spreadsheets people. Come on.

Laxadarap (2) - Demagog, Kuroaitou

Anyway, I honestly can't argue about RootRanger being Incarnate, considering there was no 'HURRAH' win phase for Rootranger's justaburdic (compared to 0911's Sadistic win), it seems like he was screwed either way against dawn's Obliterator ability.

[Fippe94]

Even if UTL assigned a role to Annele (maybe she didn't answer chat PM, and he wanted to write something) he wouldn't randomly assign justaburdic (I hope), since that is essentially giving out a free win.

Laxadarap (3) - Demagog, Kuroaitou, Fippe94

[Laxadarap]

Last mafia I was a mafia, review it and see if I actually voted to save my fellow mafia members (I actually don't recall if I did, but I don't think I did as something like ^ can happen).  Also, there is no proof that Root even was a FG.  Your essentially saying I am suspicous based on a the off chance that Root was mafia (which is 25% if I understand the reasoning right, so only a 5% chance he is a mafia compared to everybody else), the chance that I voted to save him, (ignoring the fact I could have just agreed with his reasoning), and the chance that I am more suspicious than Calindu.  If I may ask, why the vote on me instead of Cal?

[Demagog]

We can't base stuff off previous mafias, as strategies change, especially since the previous mafia had very different abilities than this one.

It's not an off chance that Root was mafia, it is like a 99% chance. Only other option is that the justaburdic ability was given out to two people, and that is extremely unlikely. As Kuro said, Root didn't get a "he wins" thing in his death post, which is pretty much the nail in the coffin.

Calindu voted before you and wasn't the tying vote. My sources say that it is most likely that Calindu is innocent.

[Laxadarap]

The win thing is probably just an oversight by the host, its very obvious there is something different if he doesn't mention it, which would make incarnate ability not as important.  Where I get my percentages from is that about 1/5 of us are mafia (if its the same as general mafias), of the 4 players listed, we have seemed to come to the cocensus (well at least kuro) that 1/4 of them were incarnate.  Root was one of them, so he has a 25% chance.  That is only 5% greater than everybody else.  Your 99% is pulled out of thin air and based on intuition.

With different abilities/strategies: a scum is still a scum, and it is pretty much the same thing through all the mafias. 

And with cal voting beforehand, that in my opinion is even less incriminating for me, because I would be an idiot if I flagged myself like that. 

With cal voting for him as well, but you find he is innocent (not going to question your sources), but you just said that we were both the suspicious ones.  How come he is no longer suspicious? I highly doubt you just now received new information.  Also, do we even have any more sources left?

Laxadarap (3) - Demagog, Kuroaitou, Fippe94
Demagog (1) - Laxadarap

[UnderneathTheLens]

Yeah I'm not that kind of guy. Annele is Justaburdic Elemental.

EVERYTHING I HAVE (or haven't ) POSTED IS ON PURPOSE.  I HAVE MADE NO MISTAKES IN POSTING.

I'm also big on consistency, so everything posted is consistent. Any perceived inconsistencies thus reflect two different situations, and not a lack of organization on my part.

@Lax. No, that was not an oversight. As I have said, I want to keep everything consistent and organized and logical, if possible.

Also, I am 100% confident on all of the roles and the format of the reports. If you receive PMs from me, you'll see a new one in the correct format.

[Demagog]

There you go, Lax. UTL basically just confirmed Root was not actually justaburdic, which means he must have been an FG.

Also, aww I was hoping to go an entire mafia without anyone voting against me :-( In truth, you're better off attempting to start a bandwagon on Calindu. Also, it wouldn't have been "idiotic" for you to vote against Root as an FG, as his ability would not reveal him as an FG. It was only bad luck for him that the person he targetted was justaburdic. Otherwise, it was almost a foolproof plan.

[Fippe94]

Ok here is the deal: The game is soon over and now I'm gonna confirm myself a civvie and give us some more time. I am Holy Light and I just used my power. At the end of the day UTL will post that, and I'm telling you now so you know it was me. This means no night, and as soon as next day I'm basically a confirmed civvie.

And Fippe94 said: Let there be Light!

[Mort]

Ok here is the deal: The game is soon over and now I'm gonna confirm myself a civvie and give us some more time. I am Holy Light and I just used my power. At the end of the day UTL will post that, and I'm telling you now so you know it was me. This means no night, and as soon as next day I'm basically a confirmed civvie.

Or:
You're in an allience with holy light, and you arranged this plan. i.e. you're not 100% confirmed.
Just something to ponder upon.

On a different note, I'm not really convinced by either laxa or demagog yet, so I'll hold off from voting for now.

[killsdazombies]

I'm sorry but I would like to interject this. I really like UTL's host style (much better then my horrible style) I think all mafias should strive for a level of consistency and organization that we see here. I love you UTL. +Karma for this.

[Laxadarap]

Ok, so Root was in fact incarnate, which is more damning for me.  One more question to demagog before I possibly change vote though.  Why the change of heart over Calindu? And no, it is not smarter to try and lynch him over you.  You just suggested that he was most likely an innocent, which you somehow have a source about.  Why the hell would I attempt to get him lynched? There is nobody speaking up for you.