Elements Mafia 31 - By UnderneathTheLens

[Annele]

IMO it is quite foolish to lynch him assuming he is the role we think he is. Our goal is to win, and if he is what he claims to be, we are wasting a turn.

We gain nothing by lynching him, so why do it?

If he isn't that role, the actual person with it should step forward. If we lynch him and somehow he isn't that role (highly doubtful), Terro must have been it.

Are you talking about justaburd or fippe?

[Laxadarap]

ddevans96 (1) - Fippe94
No Vote (6) - ddevans96, dawn to dusk, xsindomanx, mathman101, Calindu, Laxadarap
Fippe94 (1) - russianspy1234
justaburd (8 ) - justaburd, Kuroaitou, Elbirn, 1world24, Jaymanfu, Mort, Onizuka, Nepycros
Annele (2) - Killsdazombies, PlayerOa
Jaymanfu (1) - 09113664593c
mathman101 (2) - qwerter, Annele
qwerter (1) - Helston
dawn to dusk (1) - Demagog

As long as we can novote, I don't see why we shouldn't (when we have seering roles)

[Demagog]

IMO it is quite foolish to lynch him assuming he is the role we think he is. Our goal is to win, and if he is what he claims to be, we are wasting a turn.

We gain nothing by lynching him, so why do it?

If he isn't that role, the actual person with it should step forward. If we lynch him and somehow he isn't that role (highly doubtful), Terro must have been it.

If we 'waste a turn' killing a non-Elemental, that's another turn we can gather our arsenal and get ready for the next nightkill. Senseless killing won't get us anywhere, listening to Hope/Jezebel is dangerous until we know which is which, and killing someone we're reasonably certain is either a Ghost or a Justiburdic can guarantee that the other roles out there aren't gonna get lynched by accident. It's too risky to go jump the gun and kill someone who might be important.

So this round FG's get a kill. It becomes 16 - 7 (players vs. fg's+rouge). Next round we have a 7/22 chance to kill someone that can kill another player.

Or, we don't lynch him: This round we have a 7/24 chance to kill, next round we have a 7/22 OR a 6/22.

Assuming he is the claimed role, we should leave him alive.

IMO it is quite foolish to lynch him assuming he is the role we think he is. Our goal is to win, and if he is what he claims to be, we are wasting a turn.

We gain nothing by lynching him, so why do it?

If he isn't that role, the actual person with it should step forward. If we lynch him and somehow he isn't that role (highly doubtful), Terro must have been it.

Are you talking about justaburd or fippe?

Burdy.

[dawn to dusk]

justaburd is probably justaburdic so if everyone votes him out, he wins. he says he is mafia so let him prove it

[Nepycros]

justaburd is probably justaburdic so if everyone votes him out, he wins

Look, with all these annoying rules concerning 'biggest winner' and all that crap, really it just comes down to people NOT LOSING. That's it. Doesn't matter if you're the only winner, this game is really about NOT LOSING. Sure it takes away some of the edge to the game, but as long as Justaburd is running around being Justaburd, he's nothing more than a liability.

[Demagog]

justaburd is probably justaburdic so if everyone votes him out, he wins

Look, with all these annoying rules concerning 'biggest winner' and all that crap, really it just comes down to people NOT LOSING. That's it. Doesn't matter if you're the only winner, this game is really about NOT LOSING. Sure it takes away some of the edge to the game, but as long as Justaburd is running around being Justaburd, he's nothing more than a liability.

Go back and read my reply.

[Nepycros]

justaburd is probably justaburdic so if everyone votes him out, he wins

Look, with all these annoying rules concerning 'biggest winner' and all that crap, really it just comes down to people NOT LOSING. That's it. Doesn't matter if you're the only winner, this game is really about NOT LOSING. Sure it takes away some of the edge to the game, but as long as Justaburd is running around being Justaburd, he's nothing more than a liability.

Go back and read my reply.

And what happens if Jezebel pointed a finger at Fippe, and we follow through? Or if we pin the lynch mob on another civvy that happens to be valuable? Justaburd is a THROWAWAY kill. A guaranteed non-important sacrifice.

[Demagog]

Why would we go after Fippe? He's just as likely to be a role as any of the rest of us. If I were Jezebel, I'd target myself or another FG, because there is a good chance people won't lynch them. I doubt the current Jezebel/FG's had that insight and were willing to take the risk, so chances are better Fippe shouldn't be lynched.

Actually, go ahead and lynch justaburd. Chances are, he's Divinity or GotP.

[Annele]

justaburd is probably justaburdic so if everyone votes him out, he wins. he says he is mafia so let him prove it

Justa is not justaburdic. Being sucidal is just what he does.

[ddevans96]

If it's allowed, justa will attempt to suicide no matter what. It doesn't really matter what role he is - if he's Divinity, Ghost, or Justaburdic, even better. That's just his playstyle. It'd be like trying to get information from Root's agressiveness, it simply does not work.

As for Jezebel vs Hope, I'm holding judgement on this one until next round - honestly, there's only two things we can use right now:
• Kill Fippe, and if he's a FG, that one's probably hope - if not, it's probably Jezebel.
• Figure out who says folks and ass the most, and they're probably the second message.

Neither of these particularly appeal to me, nor does any other option, so I'm keeping my NV where it is :F

[Nepycros]

• Figure out who says folks and ass the most, and they're probably the second message.

I don't think these folks are gonna go with this ass-hat idea of yours.

[Helston]

Seeing as there's no way that Hope could get information about who's mafia and who isn't, there's way they know who Fippe is. It's either a personal grudge/tomfoolery (for want of not using the word trolling) from Hope or Jezebel trying to get us to think something. Either way it should be ignored.