Elements Mafia 25 - Hosted by Mesaprotector

[OTL]

btw I'm retracting my call for everyone to claim, since I now understand its stupid, sorry. Also because I already have a lead which I think may go somewhere

[Onizuka]

They know what elements are double town, but as long as they hit a correlating element in their gamble they're blind fishing. Giving out our elements info changes their gambling from finding tourist pairs to finding power roles. And why do we want that.

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,42146.msg524658.html#msg524658

Sorry if I didn't link this at the end of my post, I assume that everyone reads the entire thread.

Mcsod - 1 - Rootranger
Rootranger - 1 - Mort
Mort - 1 - majofa
ddevans96 - 1 - Cheesy111
bogtro - 1 - UnderneathTheLens
Jenkar - 1 - Shantu
PlayerOa - 1 - Legit
OTL-2- Laxadarap, Onizuka
Onizuka- 1 - OTL

[Laxadarap]

Well, that was fast

Lax brings up some points, but really, the mafia can go without the element info. They know their elements, so they'll know which elements are double-town. All this may do for mafia is to allow them to specifically go after a second person while specifically going for one. Id say that 1 maf member for that info (since that info is not particularly important to mafia) is a good deal for town, but I may be mistaken.   Yes, mafia allready know which elements are double-town.  However, they don't know who their mafia members are paired up with.  Say your mafia, and your  .  The mafia has no clue which townie is  unless they say something, so they can accidentally night-kill a fire and end up with one of their own people dieing.

I can see that lax is thinking though, so my gut says he's town

Oni on the other hand just jumped at my throat without real reasoning, so I'm suspecting maf looking for quick lynch. I'll vote oni (someone help me change my vote?)
I plain want Oni killed for revenge in PvP, but wasn't he the like the third response, and didn't he say NOT to give out elements?  Thats probably why hes jumping on you.

[OTL]

Sorry town, I just screwed up. Unvote oni

[RootRanger]

Rootranger - 1 - Mort
Mort - 1 - majofa
ddevans96 - 1 - Cheesy111
bogtro - 1 - UnderneathTheLens
Jenkar - 1 - Shantu
PlayerOa - 1 - Legit
OTL-3- Laxadarap, Onizuka, RootRanger

Seriously, WTF, OTL?

How could posting your element here be beneficial? If the mafia don't have a member of your element, they can just kill you to kill your partner too. If the mafia does have a member of your element, they'll keep you alive and have even better odds if they target someone else. You could be lying about your element, but the mafia doesn't have to even use that information if they don't want to. You made a stupid post, and we don't want you on our team.

[Laxadarap]

Rootranger - 1 - Mort
Mort - 1 - majofa
ddevans96 - 1 - Cheesy111
bogtro - 1 - UnderneathTheLens
Jenkar - 1 - Shantu
PlayerOa - 1 - Legit
OTL-3- Laxadarap, Onizuka, RootRanger

Seriously, WTF, OTL?

How could posting your element here be beneficial? If the mafia don't have a member of your element, they can just kill you to kill your partner too. If the mafia does have a member of your element, they'll keep you alive and have even better odds if they target someone else. You could be lying about your element, but the mafia doesn't have to even use that information if they don't want to. You made a stupid post, and we don't want you on our team.

I'm sorry, but that just looks kind of fishy.  He is allready resigned and admits he messed up, yet you go ahead and attack him, and do it personally too.  Trying to hard imo.  On a different note, give us a timer.  Also, Legit is looking a bit fishy to me, especially if OTL actually is mafia.

[1world24]

Rootranger - 1 - Mort
Mort - 1 - majofa
ddevans96 - 1 - Cheesy111
bogtro - 1 - UnderneathTheLens
Jenkar - 1 - Shantu
PlayerOa - 1 - Legit
OTL- 4 - Laxadarap, Onizuka, RootRanger, 1world24

[ddevans96]

Rootranger - 2 - Mort, ddevans96
Mort - 1 - majofa
ddevans96 - 1 - Cheesy111
bogtro - 1 - UnderneathTheLens
Jenkar - 1 - Shantu
PlayerOa - 1 - Legit
OTL- 4 - Laxadarap, Onizuka, RootRanger, 1world24

More aggressive than usual. You know better than that.

[RootRanger]

More aggressive than usual. You know better than that.

OTL is less valuable to us as a civ than every single player in the game, having already given away his Element. It's significantly less risky to lynch him.

Oh, please, do excuse me for being confident in a point that no one appears to be capable of providing evidence against other than criticizing the way I worded my post.

[DoubleCapitals]

Rootranger - 2 - Mort, ddevans96
Mort - 1 - majofa
ddevans96 - 1 - Cheesy111
bogtro - 1 - UnderneathTheLens
Jenkar - 1 - Shantu
PlayerOa - 1 - Legit
OTL- 4 - Laxadarap, Onizuka, RootRanger, 1world24
Onizuka- 1 - qwerter
We dont have much MLs due to the elemental pairs. I wont stop the BW, but im not joining it.
RNG lynch.

[Helston]

Based on what he's said I'm leaning towards OTL being a civvy at this stage, but having revealed his element our only choice is to lynch him. If his partner is mafia we get a kill, if his parter is civilian the mafia have to take a risk a to who to night kill. Either way it's better that we lynch him today rather than others on whom we can only speculate at this stage.

I'll be voting on OTL later, probably tomorrow, (don't like forming bandwagons) as there's still well over a full day left in the day.

Also, what's an ML, qwerter?

[DoubleCapitals]

Mislynch.