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Re: Elements Mafia 24 - Hosted by kdz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37985.msg482279#msg482279
« Reply #240 on: April 16, 2012, 10:29:51 pm »
Well, wow. I really don't know what to say, so I'll start at the beginning.

In Round 3, a gambler found my identity. I'm a doctor/seraph. I'm not going to say who this gambler is unless I'm talking to someone confirmed. I can't risk that. The gambler had found a Precog in Round 1, whose name I also won't say. Together, the three of us were a small alliance. But we were too small. That's when I recruited Terroking. He was a highly experienced player, and he had been playing mafia for a very long time. But at the time I had overlooked something that has now become obvious: if Terro had been a civ, the FGs would have just killed him because of his immense experience. But back to my story. I overlooked that and welcomed Terro into our alliance. I kept the name of the gambler secret, just in case. At least Terro doesn't know our gambler. Round 5 came along, and we were highly suspicious of Onizuka. The gambler gambled Terro and Onizuka, and we eagerly waited to see if Terro would come back with the results. Now, here's where it gets interesting. Terro is a FG as well as Oni. Since we all pretty much knew Oni was going down because of Kuro's hunch, Terro made the brilliant move of announcing Oni's status as a FG. See, he knew we had access to a Doctor and a Precog that had targeted him. The FGs targeted Terro for a night kill, our Precog was informed, and I myself saved Terro from being killed by his own teammates. That night, Terro and I talked about how to proceed. I wanted him to ask for secondary roles, while he decided against it. In hindsight, I should've been more suspicious. Fueled by anger at myself and a near-immortal status as what people believed to be a confirmed civilian, it was time for Terro to show his true colors. He would kill the Doctor and make it out alive.

But we can't let him get away with this. I've made a huge mistake by blindly trusting Terro, but it ends now. Let's kill our third FG. The REAL third FG.

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Re: Elements Mafia 24 - Hosted by kdz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37985.msg482283#msg482283
« Reply #241 on: April 16, 2012, 10:41:40 pm »
Well, wow. I really don't know what to say, so I'll start at the beginning.

In Round 3, a gambler found my identity. I'm a doctor/seraph. I'm not going to say who this gambler is unless I'm talking to someone confirmed. I can't risk that. The gambler had found a Precog in Round 1, whose name I also won't say. Together, the three of us were a small alliance. But we were too small. That's when I recruited Terroking. He was a highly experienced player, and he had been playing mafia for a very long time. But at the time I had overlooked something that has now become obvious: if Terro had been a civ, the FGs would have just killed him because of his immense experience. But back to my story. I overlooked that and welcomed Terro into our alliance. I kept the name of the gambler secret, just in case. At least Terro doesn't know our gambler. Round 5 came along, and we were highly suspicious of Onizuka. The gambler gambled Terro and Onizuka, and we eagerly waited to see if Terro would come back with the results. Now, here's where it gets interesting. Terro is a FG as well as Oni. Since we all pretty much knew Oni was going down because of Kuro's hunch, Terro made the brilliant move of announcing Oni's status as a FG. See, he knew we had access to a Doctor and a Precog that had targeted him. The FGs targeted Terro for a night kill, our Precog was informed, and I myself saved Terro from being killed by his own teammates. That night, Terro and I talked about how to proceed. I wanted him to ask for secondary roles, while he decided against it. In hindsight, I should've been more suspicious. Fueled by anger at myself and a near-immortal status as what people believed to be a confirmed civilian, it was time for Terro to show his true colors. He would kill the Doctor and make it out alive.

But we can't let him get away with this. I've made a huge mistake by blindly trusting Terro, but it ends now. Let's kill our third FG. The REAL third FG.

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Hmm really not sure what to say, other than the fact that you and terro have contrasting stories.  He said that the seer told him Oni was an FG, while you said it was a gambler.  Now, I know for a fact that Terro's secondary is a virus, which means that if were to lynch him, he can automatically take one of us out.  However, if the FG's were to do it, then that means that he wouldn't see it coming, and may not use the ability.  If he truly is an FG, and we lynch him, then RR is most likely going down.  I am removing my vote for now, until more light is shed on the situation.  If somebody is a seer they could check him out for us, not sure if I believe whoever it is though.

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Actually, since the day may end soon and I can't miss another day not voting, I'm voting on terro, but will switch back to RR if the tides have turned (just don't want my vote to influence anything yet.

Honestly, kind of still leaning toward RR as a false god though, even though I suspected Terro was one at the very beginning (just a hunch). 
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Re: Elements Mafia 24 - Hosted by kdz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37985.msg482288#msg482288
« Reply #242 on: April 16, 2012, 10:46:21 pm »
Well, wow. I really don't know what to say, so I'll start at the beginning.

In Round 3, a gambler found my identity. I'm a doctor/seraph. I'm not going to say who this gambler is unless I'm talking to someone confirmed. I can't risk that. The gambler had found a Precog in Round 1, whose name I also won't say. Together, the three of us were a small alliance. But we were too small. That's when I recruited Terroking. He was a highly experienced player, and he had been playing mafia for a very long time. But at the time I had overlooked something that has now become obvious: if Terro had been a civ, the FGs would have just killed him because of his immense experience. But back to my story. I overlooked that and welcomed Terro into our alliance. I kept the name of the gambler secret, just in case. At least Terro doesn't know our gambler. Round 5 came along, and we were highly suspicious of Onizuka. The gambler gambled Terro and Onizuka, and we eagerly waited to see if Terro would come back with the results. Now, here's where it gets interesting. Terro is a FG as well as Oni. Since we all pretty much knew Oni was going down because of Kuro's hunch, Terro made the brilliant move of announcing Oni's status as a FG. See, he knew we had access to a Doctor and a Precog that had targeted him. The FGs targeted Terro for a night kill, our Precog was informed, and I myself saved Terro from being killed by his own teammates. That night, Terro and I talked about how to proceed. I wanted him to ask for secondary roles, while he decided against it. In hindsight, I should've been more suspicious. Fueled by anger at myself and a near-immortal status as what people believed to be a confirmed civilian, it was time for Terro to show his true colors. He would kill the Doctor and make it out alive.

But we can't let him get away with this. I've made a huge mistake by blindly trusting Terro, but it ends now. Let's kill our third FG. The REAL third FG.

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I'm not going to tl;dr or say "Cool Story Bro," since I know that as FGs being picked off you often have to try something like this, and at least you tried.

I really hate the experience factor in Mafia, as it often leads to both good players getting killed by FGs in the early rounds because of said experience, and quite often also leads to this same logic in the civs "If they haven't killed him, he must be one." The civs then proceed to lynch the person and lose a skilled civvy.

That's just a tangent, though. After I die we should be able to mop up the few FGs that remain by analyzing defense attempts such as this. Root was a good choice by the FGs to do this because at this point he's probably dead to lynching anyway, so we don't gain much info from that.

Also, another reminder to civs to send me your roles if possible. I only have a few now, and will probably not survive for many more nights. To anyone who would believe Root, just remember that you're free to lynch me after if he is somehow the doctor as he says.
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Re: Elements Mafia 24 - Hosted by kdz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37985.msg482289#msg482289
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Re: Elements Mafia 24 - Hosted by kdz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37985.msg482293#msg482293
« Reply #244 on: April 16, 2012, 10:51:56 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 24 - Hosted by kdz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37985.msg482295#msg482295
« Reply #245 on: April 16, 2012, 10:53:15 pm »
Also, Terro is no longer a Virus, that has been dealt with.  You may now lynch without fear of double retribution :D
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Re: Elements Mafia 24 - Hosted by kdz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37985.msg482297#msg482297
« Reply #246 on: April 16, 2012, 10:56:18 pm »
Lynch one, and if they're a civilian, the other is lying and lynch them. I mutated Terro, as the virus I'm now 99% positive he had is more threatening to civilians than the Seraph Root claims to be.
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Re: Elements Mafia 24 - Hosted by kdz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37985.msg482299#msg482299
« Reply #247 on: April 16, 2012, 11:00:02 pm »
Also, Terro is no longer a Virus, that has been dealt with.  You may now lynch without fear of double retribution :D

While I was in the act of using it on you, too. :/

Oh well. I'm a Ghost now, so that kinda backfired for the FGs.

If it wasn't already obvious: Vote Lax for lynch next round, either he mutated me and has defended Root who is a confirmed FG, or is in contact with an Elf and has defended Root (Being in contact with an Elf inclined him towards the FG side, as they are in an alliance by default and usually have access to at least 1 lobo-type effect).
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Re: Elements Mafia 24 - Hosted by kdz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37985.msg482303#msg482303
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Terro, I sort of ninja'd you. Make sure you check that.
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Re: Elements Mafia 24 - Hosted by kdz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37985.msg482306#msg482306
« Reply #249 on: April 16, 2012, 11:07:03 pm »
Also, Terro is no longer a Virus, that has been dealt with.  You may now lynch without fear of double retribution :D

While I was in the act of using it on you, too. :/

Oh well. I'm a Ghost now, so that kinda backfired for the FGs.

If it wasn't already obvious: Vote Lax for lynch next round, either he mutated me and has defended Root who is a confirmed FG, or is in contact with an Elf and has defended Root (Being in contact with an Elf inclined him towards the FG side, as they are in an alliance by default and usually have access to at least 1 lobo-type effect).

Lol lynch meh if you wish, waste of a turn.  Also Terro, you seem to be changing targets pretty quickly :D
EDIT: Implies he is getting backed into a corner.  Besides, I only mutated or had you mutated because honestly, I'm scared of virus.  And if by chance you are an FG, then they could take out 2 people in one go.  Add a lynch, and thats three of us down.  And before you accuse me, I voted for Root first of all, until his defense, as of now I'm kinda abstaining (even though I can't)

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Re: Elements Mafia 24 - Hosted by kdz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37985.msg482314#msg482314
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Re: Elements Mafia 24 - Hosted by kdz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37985.msg482316#msg482316
« Reply #251 on: April 16, 2012, 11:22:53 pm »
Also, Terro is no longer a Virus, that has been dealt with.  You may now lynch without fear of double retribution :D

While I was in the act of using it on you, too. :/

Oh well. I'm a Ghost now, so that kinda backfired for the FGs.

If it wasn't already obvious: Vote Lax for lynch next round, either he mutated me and has defended Root who is a confirmed FG, or is in contact with an Elf and has defended Root (Being in contact with an Elf inclined him towards the FG side, as they are in an alliance by default and usually have access to at least 1 lobo-type effect).

Lol lynch meh if you wish, waste of a turn.  Also Terro, you seem to be changing targets pretty quickly :D
EDIT: Implies he is getting backed into a corner.  Besides, I only mutated or had you mutated because honestly, I'm scared of virus.  And if by chance you are an FG, then they could take out 2 people in one go.  Add a lynch, and thats three of us down.  And before you accuse me, I voted for Root first of all, until his defense, as of now I'm kinda abstaining (even though I can't)

EDIT EDIT: And before it gets me killed, I'm NOT the seer.

Yeah, I realize that. I'm not trying to change targets but keep track of everyone who defends players who the Seer has told me are FGs, since it obviously makes it quite likely that they themselves are FGs. I can understand the mutate, and if you are indeed a civvy then I'm glad you did so, but so far I have little evidence to suggest that and a fair bit pointing the opposite direction, primarily your voting and posting to protect FGs.

Terro, I sort of ninja'd you. Make sure you check that.

Yeah, you got me pretty good.


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A: Fixed

B: That seems like a pretty dumb reason. First off, both Root and I claim to be part of alliances. Second off, the Seer web of expansion is very well-known, as the Seer finds out roles he either invites them to join him so the civvies can be coordinated, or gets someone to say that they are FGs, usually one of the people in the former.

EDIT: Incoming miraculous Witness save, assuming these FGs have some sort of vote manipulation to try and get rid of me without wasting a night kill. This doesn't mean anyone is clear to vote for me, since voting for Root and exposing him as a FG will pretty much clear any controversy anyway, and gets a free FG kill out of the way.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2012, 11:34:03 pm by Terroking »
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