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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg296328#msg296328
« Reply #288 on: March 23, 2011, 12:14:46 am »
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I wanted to use the witness role before so it wouldn't be wasted because i wanted a new role and i think TII could be innocent ( but not 100% sure) my top 6 guesses for fgs are ss,TII,nepycross,dragoon1140,shantu,and Legit. (I should actually start sharing my guesses since for some reason, im getting them right
witness is an IMPORTANT role... u wasted it on me...
and u don't even know I am innocent (I am, but still)...

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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg296344#msg296344
« Reply #289 on: March 23, 2011, 12:35:21 am »
Quote from: TheIdioticIdiot link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg316863#msg316863 date=1300838766
Quote from: $$$man link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg316857#msg316857 date=1300838655
OMG! I was saved by blasken after being targeted by the FG's.
OMG! I was saved by Zblader after being targeted by the FG's
The FGs do not kill other FGs in the night unless they are almost sure that their fellow FG will not actually die. It's stupid to kill one of your fellow FGs during the night phase if they are actually going to die.

In $$$man's case, the FGs targetted $$$man and the FGs thought that $$$man would die because it would be hard to trick the armagio into using his ability if you were a FG. It would also be hard to find out whether or not the armagio used his ability. I think the chances of $$$man being a FG are about 3% simply because it would be way too much a risk for the FGs to target a fellow FG. 3% is a risk I'm more than willing to take.

In TII's case, the FGs knew that whoever they targeted at night would not actually die. So they could target whoever they wanted, no matter what their target would not die. Which means they can target another FG and nothing bad would happen. I estimate TII's chances of being a FG at 50% (which is higher than anyone else). It's this high because of the "chinese matrix" lie which included theories that $$$man and I were both likely FGs. It is also because of his alliance with patchx, another suspect due to his improper and FG-like mutation.

ICB is sketchy, but I still think he is not as likely a FG as TII.
From what I hear, ICB was just giving his opinion. Nepycros was afraid of being killed because of $$$man's post (correct me If I'm wrong, Nepycros).

Here is my suspect list. The lower numbers are more likely a FG.

1.) TII - Chinese matrix lie and his verbal attacks against two likely civs. He also just so happened to have support from the witness (another FG?).
2.) Patchx - Alliance with TII and improper mutations.
3.) SS - Somehow he found out that either Jaymanfu or I was a liar before we posted it officially. He has connections. And the worst part? He has experience.
4.) ICB - Strange stuff with the priest ability.
5.) 1world - Using the witness ability on TII. Seriously, that's just going to slow us down even more. Thanks.


Lastly...
I would like a mutation, but don't make it your top priority.
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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg296347#msg296347
« Reply #290 on: March 23, 2011, 12:40:07 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg296352#msg296352
« Reply #291 on: March 23, 2011, 12:47:15 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg296354#msg296354
« Reply #292 on: March 23, 2011, 12:49:34 am »
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TII - 1 (Legit)
Fixed.

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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg296356#msg296356
« Reply #293 on: March 23, 2011, 12:50:47 am »
Also for the record, I know for a FACT that TII is a civilian. Whether you believe me or not is entirely up to you, though I swear it's the truth

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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg296365#msg296365
« Reply #294 on: March 23, 2011, 12:56:45 am »
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The thing is, how did $$$man prove to blazken that he was a civy the first round? If he is an fg and they knew blazken was gonna armagio him, then assuming he's "safe" could be our greatest mistake.
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Damn, RootRanger ninja'd me. It's a really risky move on the FG's part, and so there's an extremely low chance that would happen. TII, we should trust $$$man.

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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg296370#msg296370
« Reply #295 on: March 23, 2011, 01:00:54 am »
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ICB - 5 (Zblader, Terroking, TheIdioticIdiot, vinvick3714, TheForbiddenOracle)
TII - 1 (Legit)
patchx94 - 2 (patchx94)
Fixed.

I propose seer'ing TheForbiddenOracle.
If he's FG, TII probably is too.
If he's civ, TII probably is too.

But if we seer TII and he's civ, we don't know TFO's identity.

Also, seer, don't worry about your identity.
Just PM the results to $$$man. He's almost surely civ.
If you want you can even tell him in chat as a guest.
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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg296374#msg296374
« Reply #296 on: March 23, 2011, 01:03:24 am »
But for the time being... he'll stay anonymous.
Perception is the source of misunderstanding.

Why, yes. I do have a Mindgate necklace. It's how I ninja everyone.

Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg296377#msg296377
« Reply #297 on: March 23, 2011, 01:05:57 am »
Quote from: TheForbiddenOracle link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg316905#msg316905 date=1300841447
Also for the record, I know for a FACT that TII is a civilian. Whether you believe me or not is entirely up to you, though I swear it's the truth
Quote from: RootRanger link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg316921#msg316921 date=1300842054
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TII - 1 (Legit)
patchx94 - 2 (patchx94)
Fixed.

I propose seer'ing TheForbiddenOracle.
If he's FG, TII probably is too.
If he's civ, TII probably is too.

But if we seer TII and he's civ, we don't know TFO's identity.

Also, seer, don't worry about your identity.
Just PM the results to $$$man. He's almost surely civ.
If you want you can even tell him in chat as a guest.
um... I think TFO is the oracle... as funny as it is...
the forbidden oracle being the oracle...

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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg296378#msg296378
« Reply #298 on: March 23, 2011, 01:07:15 am »
I managed to contact blazken and they thought that even with them dead, it could help by getting a comfirmed civvy and I was the only one they contacted.

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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg296379#msg296379
« Reply #299 on: March 23, 2011, 01:08:29 am »
You contacted blaziken?
Was this before or after he died?
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