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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg295104#msg295104
« Reply #192 on: March 21, 2011, 12:43:43 am »
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changing my vote
just realized something...

TII wanted $$$man dead. His campaign wasn't that successful; only two people switched their votes. And then $$$man was targeted by the mafia. Quite suspicious.

And you know what? TII sent me some strange PMs. He claimed he had some sort of system to predict FGs; he called it a chinese matrix. He said $$$man had an 83% chance to be a FG. Hah.

He says he sent this chinese matrix to people that had a low % of being a FG. Did anyone actually receive this? He couldn't give me any names.

I'm not saying TII is a guaranteed FG, but I think he's significantly more likely than anyone else. I'll see what $$$man (the only confirmed civilian) thinks.
hm... just thought of something...
the FGs chose to kill $$$man...
root was the only one I told about my "chinese matrix" predicting $$$man to be an FG (which was a lie)
if root already knew $$$man is not an FG, he would wonder why my "matrix" (which doesn't exist) said he is an FG, so root might think $$$man might be a threatening civilian... and he would tell other FGs to target him as well...
so...

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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg295107#msg295107
« Reply #193 on: March 21, 2011, 12:49:45 am »
Wait, wasn't there a rule change that allowed FGs to target each other if they all agreed on it?

If one somehow knew that the Armagio was going to use his ability, they could have staged this easily.

Pretty certain there was a lot of talk about this rule last mafia and this was the verdict.


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I dunno, I'll probably change it later.
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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg295110#msg295110
« Reply #194 on: March 21, 2011, 12:53:20 am »
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Terro I love you.
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Quote from: ShiningSword link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg315428#msg315428 date=1300660340
there are 2 liars voting terro, so your revenge will have to wait a little longer.
And if FG's want to kill anybody, kill me!!!(unless you are too scared to get near me!)
Quote from: patchx94 link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg315518#msg315518 date=1300667372
I'm a liar.
AND patchx makes a false move.

I'm a liar.
Which means, both of the remaining liars voted for Terro if SS is telling the truth.
Patchx didn't vote for Terro.
Either SS lied about his information...
Or patchx really isn't a liar.

EDIT: Heh, forgot something. I didn't tell SS I was a liar until after his post.
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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg295112#msg295112
« Reply #195 on: March 21, 2011, 12:53:41 am »
FG's have always been able to kill each other. If they want to say, "Hey, Humpty Dumpty is an FG," and he really is, they must all agree to it, as well as me.

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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg295117#msg295117
« Reply #196 on: March 21, 2011, 12:56:59 am »
Well, i guess it is time to choose somebody. As i have no idea who to choose(it is easier when we eliminate suspects instead of adding).
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Based on some, ah, shall we say, intel from Demagog, I find voting for myself, no matter the role, is a bad idea.
Hm. So no matter the role your vote counts for 2 when you vote yourself(which you know because you have the role which would think voting yourself is good, the lier role).
And why would a lier hide that(it could be dangerous to do that) instead of asking for a mutation(so he can help the civys).
On the other hand, an FG could use that to protect his partners. And he has only protected terro so far(and without admiting it, so if he died he wouldnt be suspect) so we could assume that if nepy is an FG, so is terro.
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Quote from: Demagog link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg315542#msg315542 date=1300668821
FG's have always been able to kill each other. If they want to say, "Hey, Humpty Dumpty is an FG," and he really is, they must all agree to it, as well as me.
They can accuse eachother. But can they target an FG as a night kill(in case $$$man is an FG)

Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg295118#msg295118
« Reply #197 on: March 21, 2011, 12:57:09 am »
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Terro I love you.
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Quote from: ShiningSword link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg315428#msg315428 date=1300660340
there are 2 liars voting terro, so your revenge will have to wait a little longer.
And if FG's want to kill anybody, kill me!!!(unless you are too scared to get near me!)
Quote from: patchx94 link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg315518#msg315518 date=1300667372
I'm a liar.
AND patchx makes a false move.

I'm a liar.
Which means, both of the remaining liars voted for Terro if SS is telling the truth.
Patchx didn't vote for Terro.
Either SS lied about his information...
Or patchx really isn't a liar.

jaymanfu is the other liar
Quote from: Jaymanfu link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg315531#msg315531 date=1300667966
still could use a mutate if a fallen elf could help me out, im a liar

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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg295129#msg295129
« Reply #198 on: March 21, 2011, 01:04:49 am »
Guess who's the first to jump to patchx's defense? TII.

I bet they are both FGs.

But I think TII is more suspicious.
Especially considering you lied about the matrix.
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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg295136#msg295136
« Reply #199 on: March 21, 2011, 01:11:13 am »
Hm, maybe we should go for TII now, and take nepy next round if TII is innocent.

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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg295139#msg295139
« Reply #200 on: March 21, 2011, 01:16:12 am »
Sounds good. And when TII is a FG we take down patchx.
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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg295143#msg295143
« Reply #201 on: March 21, 2011, 01:20:44 am »
how do know root and SS are not FGs?
they seem to agree with each other...


come for me if you want, but I would go after root and SS when I turn out to be innocent

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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg295148#msg295148
« Reply #202 on: March 21, 2011, 01:23:15 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia - 18 - By Demagog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg295150#msg295150
« Reply #203 on: March 21, 2011, 01:25:07 am »
Quote from: ShiningSword link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg315547#msg315547 date=1300669019
Well, i guess it is time to choose somebody. As i have no idea who to choose(it is easier when we eliminate suspects instead of adding).
Quote from: Nepycros link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg315532#msg315532 date=1300668198
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Based on some, ah, shall we say, intel from Demagog, I find voting for myself, no matter the role, is a bad idea.
Hm. So no matter the role your vote counts for 2 when you vote yourself(which you know because you have the role which would think voting yourself is good, the lier role).
And why would a lier hide that(it could be dangerous to do that) instead of asking for a mutation(so he can help the civys).
On the other hand, an FG could use that to protect his partners. And he has only protected terro so far(and without admiting it, so if he died he wouldnt be suspect) so we could assume that if nepy is an FG, so is terro.
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Quote from: Demagog link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23067.msg315542#msg315542 date=1300668821
FG's have always been able to kill each other. If they want to say, "Hey, Humpty Dumpty is an FG," and he really is, they must all agree to it, as well as me.
They can accuse each other. But can they target an FG as a night kill(in case $$$man is an FG)
I'll explain the examples of voting for yourself.

No vote modifier - 2 votes
Vulture - Doubles your current vote power
Vigilante - 4 votes
Liar - Removes your vote and two others.
Village Idiot - 0 votes

No matter what role you have, you still add only one extra vote as though you have no vote modifier. Even if you are a vulture with a VP of 6, if you are the only person voting for you, the number of votes displayed in the thread is two.

FG's have always been able to night-kill each other.

 

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