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Re: Elements Mafia - 16 - Hosted by Dragoon1140 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg277794#msg277794
« Reply #132 on: February 24, 2011, 06:22:15 pm »
Did you miss me? ;)
Quote from: Korugar link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg296357#msg296357 date=1298524644
Well, can anyone think of any ways that BatCountry could be guilty? If we can't, I say we send our roles to her.
This is a good idea, would be very helpful. It would possibly shorten my already shortened mafia lifespan (I could really use a Doctor or Armagio this round), but I need to know where some roles are right now. Send me your primary/secondary by pm.

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Re: Elements Mafia - 16 - Hosted by Dragoon1140 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg277795#msg277795
« Reply #133 on: February 24, 2011, 06:23:12 pm »
I still have some doubts on BatCountry.

She found a FG first round, without being the seer. Either she was gambler targeted or she is a FG.

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Re: Elements Mafia - 16 - Hosted by Dragoon1140 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg277820#msg277820
« Reply #134 on: February 24, 2011, 07:02:57 pm »
Quote from: RavingRabbid link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg296678#msg296678 date=1298571792
I still have some doubts on BatCountry.

She found a FG first round, without being the seer. Either she was gambler targeted or she is a FG.
A master stroke like that would be extremely good(like one of the best, or useless if we dont fall for it). Nobody expects FG killing eachother at first round, so we think she is innocent, and with seer down there isnt a way to know for sure(we should think of who could get info of nepy easily, maybe someone who is his friend, i dont know who, but he/she could be an FG). But i think she was just gamblered along with legit and has nothing special(except for being an almost sure innocent, i wouldnt expect her to last).
Im a humble civy/shrieker.

Quote from: Korugar link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg296650#msg296650 date=1298568940
So no useful information? No "I'm voting for ddevans because ____"? All right...
Seer can only see a person a turn(and raving said he was that person) so yeah, nothing.
If raving lies and somebody else was contacted, saying so would be clever(so we dont end up giving info to an FG, if your life is worth more than that, shut your mouth).

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Re: Elements Mafia - 16 - Hosted by Dragoon1140 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg277830#msg277830
« Reply #135 on: February 24, 2011, 07:10:36 pm »
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I still have some doubts on BatCountry.

She found a FG first round, without being the seer. Either she was gambler targeted or she is a FG.
A master stroke like that would be extremely good(like one of the best, or useless if we dont fall for it). Nobody expects FG killing eachother at first round, so we think she is innocent, and with seer down there isnt a way to know for sure(we should think of who could get info of nepy easily, maybe someone who is his friend, i dont know who, but he/she could be an FG). But i think she was just gamblered along with legit and has nothing special(except for being an almost sure innocent, i wouldnt expect her to last).
Im a humble civy/shrieker.
Considering the rule where FGs may not "oust each other" I don't think that would be possible, though I could be mistaken.

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Re: Elements Mafia - 16 - Hosted by Dragoon1140 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg277832#msg277832
« Reply #136 on: February 24, 2011, 07:10:58 pm »
Quote from: RavingRabbid link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg296678#msg296678 date=1298571792
I still have some doubts on BatCountry.

She found a FG first round, without being the seer. Either she was gambler targeted or she is a FG.
you really think the fg'll try to kill another one in the first round already?
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Re: Elements Mafia - 16 - Hosted by Dragoon1140 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg277860#msg277860
« Reply #137 on: February 24, 2011, 07:48:02 pm »
I also agree with QuantumT. Rootranger seemed pretty defensive of Legit back there.

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Re: Elements Mafia - 16 - Hosted by Dragoon1140 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg277869#msg277869
« Reply #138 on: February 24, 2011, 07:57:20 pm »
WARNING!!

Mmmkay, you guys are making this too complicated. Take a look at what Korugar said and this rule:
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NEW RULE: The FGs may not oust eachother under any circumstances. If an FG is found to be doing this, they should be reported to either myself, or the host, and they well be banned from the game, and the following game of Mafia.
I can't possibly be a FG! If you are a civilian, you have no reason, or excuse to fear pming me with your REAL primary and secondary abilities. If you do not pm me with this information, I will reveal the list of people who did not do so, before the day is over. I will also note inconsistensies. Have a nice day, unless you are a FG, in which case, have a fearful day. :)

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Re: Elements Mafia - 16 - Hosted by Dragoon1140 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg277872#msg277872
« Reply #139 on: February 24, 2011, 08:01:46 pm »
Right, the ousting rule. Fine, in case, I'll have warned you.
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Re: Elements Mafia - 16 - Hosted by Dragoon1140 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg277875#msg277875
« Reply #140 on: February 24, 2011, 08:02:38 pm »
Quote from: Korugar link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg296714#msg296714 date=1298574636
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I still have some doubts on BatCountry.

She found a FG first round, without being the seer. Either she was gambler targeted or she is a FG.
A master stroke like that would be extremely good(like one of the best, or useless if we dont fall for it). Nobody expects FG killing eachother at first round, so we think she is innocent, and with seer down there isnt a way to know for sure(we should think of who could get info of nepy easily, maybe someone who is his friend, i dont know who, but he/she could be an FG). But i think she was just gamblered along with legit and has nothing special(except for being an almost sure innocent, i wouldnt expect her to last).
Im a humble civy/shrieker.
Considering the rule where FGs may not "oust each other" I don't think that would be possible, though I could be mistaken.
That rule was made to prevent from ruining the games(and an advanced strategy like this wouldnt exactly ruin it).
This is an extremely useless complication, as bat said.
 by the way, do i need to pm you my role when i just said it?

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Re: Elements Mafia - 16 - Hosted by Dragoon1140 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg277880#msg277880
« Reply #141 on: February 24, 2011, 08:05:05 pm »
Quote from: BatCountry link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg296755#msg296755 date=1298577440
WARNING!!

Mmmkay, you guys are making this too complicated. Take a look at what Korugar said and this rule:
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NEW RULE: The FGs may not oust eachother under any circumstances. If an FG is found to be doing this, they should be reported to either myself, or the host, and they well be banned from the game, and the following game of Mafia.
I can't possibly be a FG! If you are a civilian, you have no reason, or excuse to fear pming me with your REAL primary and secondary abilities. If you do not pm me with this information, I will reveal the list of people who did not do so, before the day is over. I will also note inconsistensies. Have a nice day, unless you are a FG, in which case, have a fearful day. :)
Quoting this again just in case. And yes, SS. I already had couple people tell me in chat/pm their abilities, but pm me again just to be sure.

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Re: Elements Mafia - 16 - Hosted by Dragoon1140 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg277893#msg277893
« Reply #142 on: February 24, 2011, 08:22:54 pm »
Can we get a recap of this batcountry situation? Starting from the beginning, all points of interest in quotes. I'm not revealing anything until I get the whole story.

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Re: Elements Mafia - 16 - Hosted by Dragoon1140 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg277912#msg277912
« Reply #143 on: February 24, 2011, 09:00:29 pm »
All right, well, let's start with this post.

Quote from: BatCountry link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg295191#msg295191 date=1298397041
WARNING!!

Shantu is innocent. I have determined, with SCIENCE, that Legit is one of the False Gods! If you were going to bandwagon, or rely on RNG for first vote, pick Legit instead. (I changed my vote from Shantu to Legit) He is illegit and a False God! Trust me.

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While there was speculation about what BatCountry could have been doing, I'd say the stuff before day end was mostly pointless, so...

Quote from: Dragoon1140 link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg296347#msg296347 date=1298523376
Day one is now over.

As Legit steps on the gallows, taking the last few steps of his life, he rests his eyes on the town that voted to hang him.  The noose is then tied around his neck and he looks at the most beautiful red sunset.  He remembers the bright times of his life, and how it all went wrong in just a few days.  He makes one final prayer for forgiveness for the sins he has made, and the executor does the deed.  As Legit chokes to his eventual death, the town looks upon the seemingly black substance leaking out of his carcase.  They realize that they were lucky enough to hang a False God.

The remaining four False Gods realize that they've already lost a valuable member of their company.  They decide for that night to be a night of revenge.  They pick their victim from a pool.  They then approached the house of Nepycros.  Nepycros, being the kind soul that he is, accepts their welcome and eats the food they offer.  After an hour and more hassle than expected, the False Gods realize something is wrong.  Nepycros didn't bleed normal blood, he bled the blood of the valuable.  They realize they hung the wise man of the community, the Seer.

Those who died:
Legit - False God / Con Artist
Nepycros - Seer / Con Artist

Day two begins.
OK, that shows BatCountry was right. Let's look at three possibilities.

(1) She could have been the Seer. Wait, Seer died! OK, moving on...

(2) She could have been targeted by the Gambler along with Legit. I don't think she's ever actually claimed this happened, but it makes the most sense to me.

(3) She could be an FG using an advanced and brilliant strategy to get everyone's roles to eliminate all resistance.

Quote from: ShiningSword link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21454.msg296761#msg296761 date=1298577758
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I still have some doubts on BatCountry.

She found a FG first round, without being the seer. Either she was gambler targeted or she is a FG.
A master stroke like that would be extremely good(like one of the best, or useless if we dont fall for it). Nobody expects FG killing eachother at first round, so we think she is innocent, and with seer down there isnt a way to know for sure(we should think of who could get info of nepy easily, maybe someone who is his friend, i dont know who, but he/she could be an FG). But i think she was just gamblered along with legit and has nothing special(except for being an almost sure innocent, i wouldnt expect her to last).
Im a humble civy/shrieker.
Considering the rule where FGs may not "oust each other" I don't think that would be possible, though I could be mistaken.
That rule was made to prevent from ruining the games(and an advanced strategy like this wouldnt exactly ruin it).
This is an extremely useless complication, as bat said.
 by the way, do i need to pm you my role when i just said it?
Using the points in here, I'd say that doing number 3 would not be against the spirit of the "law", but would be against the letter. Thus, Dragoon is technically the only one who can confirm or deny if the last one is actually possible. Dragoon?


EDIT: Oh, and this is just a gut feeling. No promises, but that's technically how I killed Hyroen last game...

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