I'm the FG, and you lynched terro.
This would be bad, but I had no idea the triangle even existed in the first place, so even though you lynched the innocent terro, my chances of hitting the con artist are 1 in 4. Odds are you can kill me next round.
Terro's the FG, and you lynched me.
This basically gives the game to Terro, because Terro knows shining is the con artist, so by lynching me you give him the opportunity to take out the only 2 people that can stop him from winning at the same time.
Well, I was long dead by the time they got around to lynching you. The point those plans are described was the round I died in. What happened after that was beyond me.
I should point out that shining's role was not well known. Before I died, only shining, myself and terroking knew shining's role. Just before I died I also told world when I gave him the complete list of roles as a backup to shining.
Unfortunately, after I died, only shining and terroking were aware that terro knew about shining's ability, and that it was dangerous. So, only shiningsword had any idea that terro knew something you didn't in the round they lynched you. You're saying it was poor strategy to kill you that late, but only 1 civy (shining) had that info. They all knew you were an outsider avoiding confirming his vulture skill, but only one living civy had the info to know there was any danger to not lynching terro first at that point. To every other living civy, you looked like a hands-down better choice.
As far as I can tell, they carried out the previous plan to kill you when they got the chance (except that original plan was to kill you just before the ability grew enough to dominate, and to preserve the triangle through majofa - who didn't cooperate).
When those plans were made (the round I died) there were 5 skills that could interfere: 1 tradesman, 2 con artist (one being inactive but tradeable in 7wave), and 2 vultures. In addition, the vulture wasn't big enough to dominate yet. Killing you right then while preserving the triangle would have been a good choice. If we had no suspects, taking out the triangle would've been strategically sound. Killing you before it was dangerous was the start of that. Back then, killing you wasn't actually a big deal because the vulture wasn't big enough. That obviously changed by the time they finally killed you. And plus, we wanted to complete the job info, which we got as a side benefit to offing you instead of terro back then.
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The other issue with assuming quantumT didn't know about the other vulture was that the forums themselves contained the info about the second vulture. There was one vulture to start, and demagog declared he'd self-mutated into a second right on the forums. That was the ability terro took with tradesman. Terro never even would've been a vulture if that hadn't been posted publically. For that matter, I was discussing with terro about what he should trade for (he was asking if he could take my immortality, then dema posted about his vulture ability), so I even helped create him as a vulture more or less. So, assuming quantumT didn't know about the second vulture, relied on him not adding up publically declared roles for himself. You may not have known who the second vulture was, but the only really secret role was the con artist in shiningsword.
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For majofa - that's true, you were one of the few outsiders, but you either were going to join after a few rounds of earning moderate cred, or you'd have been lynched as one of the 3 (of 13) active outsiders. That's what contacting you was all about. Either you could've protected someone with armagio, which was the first reason I contacted you (and taken yourself off the table); or later when you became tradesman, you could become another side of the vulture triangle as we removed the other outsiders. We were either going to make you useful or kill you off. You pretty much made the choice for us though.
I still can't figure out why you'd take my skill as a civy. You had to know I'd try to kill you when I found out the following round (even if it was at day end). And you also had to know how suspicious that would make you look. The only way it made sense was if you thought I would be dead the following round, which you shouldn't have expected unless you were an FG.
The kicker is, even if I had died without speaking, the group all knew nilsieboy had given you tradesman (hence why he was now armagio), and when my body showed up with tradesman ability instead of my claimed immortality, they'd all immediately know you took it from me, opening a window for my sudden death.
If I died, you'd be next, innocent or not. If I lived, I'd be leading the mob to your door. How did you expect to get away with it?
