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Re: Elements mafia - 15 - Run by killsdazombies! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20278.msg260850#msg260850
« Reply #180 on: January 30, 2011, 11:05:29 pm »
Quote from: ddevans96 link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20278.msg278660#msg278660 date=1296428122
I was accusing 1world for lying and directing away from himself. I never defended Raving directly.
Yeah that's true, except that 1world wasn't lying.  All he did was point the finger at the first person to vote for $$$man in answer to the question "who started it", that isn't lying, nor is it suspicious.

Fabricating stories to divert attention from the obvious blamee for lynching the seer is suspicious though.

You know, you could prove me wrong by voting against raving though.  As I understand it, FG's aren't allowed to vote against each other.

Quote from: ddevans96 link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20278.msg278660#msg278660 date=1296428122
This is very unfair, and I'm shocked that you would actually post something like this. I have done nothing in this game except accuse world, and then have to defend myself for it. I have explained several times why I accused world and you disregard it completely.
An excellent attempt at deflection.  Getting to be a habit, that.

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Re: Elements mafia - 15 - Run by killsdazombies! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20278.msg260853#msg260853
« Reply #181 on: January 30, 2011, 11:10:45 pm »
You haven't read a single one of my earlier posts so I'm going to ignore you. I explain why I accused him, why I call his actions lying, why I think he is the obvious person to blame, and why I am 'defending' raving. Go and read those a couple of times, and until then stop posting towards me.
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Re: Elements mafia - 15 - Run by killsdazombies! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20278.msg260856#msg260856
« Reply #182 on: January 30, 2011, 11:14:41 pm »
I suggest we start showing ddevans96 a little more respect.

Ignoring that we're in the forum game environment, ddevans96 has been around this community for a long time and as a person does not deserve the stresses being caused by this thread.

Please let's recognize we're in a game and treat it as such.

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Re: Elements mafia - 15 - Run by killsdazombies! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20278.msg260858#msg260858
« Reply #183 on: January 30, 2011, 11:16:43 pm »
Come then, vote against Dema this round and Raving next, and whenever we get an FG, you'll be free of suspicion.

Unless of course... you can't.

Face it, if I live to see next round, I'm gonna totally lynch your buddy!

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Re: Elements mafia - 15 - Run by killsdazombies! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20278.msg260863#msg260863
« Reply #184 on: January 30, 2011, 11:30:23 pm »
EDIT: im very sad the way this ended, i consider resonable a level of suspicion in this kind of game, as it is about lying. While i understand your defence and see that it is reasonable, the posibility was to be considered, and i wanted to check. I hope i havent offended you as it wasnt my intention.
EDIT2:the only way to check was to kill one of you, and to convince the people i had to assume you were lying,but anyway im truly sorry for what happened.

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Re: Elements mafia - 15 - Run by killsdazombies! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20278.msg260867#msg260867
« Reply #185 on: January 30, 2011, 11:35:39 pm »
1world24 - 5 (Kakerlake, Shantu, RavingRabbid, nilsieboy, QuantumT)
Dragoon1140 - 2 (Demagog, Wardead,)
Appawesome - 3 ( AppAwesome, thenewguy, Kuroaitou)
thenewguy - 1 (majofa)
ddevans96 - 1 (ShiningSword)
Demagog - 6 (Dragoon1140, Korugar, 1world24, Hyroen, Terroking, Skydaemon)
Skydaemon - 1 (ddevans96)

K I'm changing my vote to 1world because it seems to me that it's win/win. Either he's a civy and all the people who defended him probably are too, or he's an FG and we gain a whole bunch of new targets.

Really though, it seems like some people are trying awfully hard to defend him, and it seems like civys just wouldn't have the information to do that.

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Re: Elements mafia - 15 - Run by killsdazombies! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20278.msg260868#msg260868
« Reply #186 on: January 30, 2011, 11:38:02 pm »
1world24 - 4 (Kakerlake, Shantu, RavingRabbid, nilsieboy)
Dragoon1140 - 2 (Demagog, Wardead,)
Appawesome - 4 ( AppAwesome, thenewguy, QuantumT, Kuroaitou)
thenewguy - 1 (majofa)
ddevans96 - 1 (ShiningSword)
Demagog - 7 (Dragoon1140, Korugar, 1world24, Hyroen, Terroking, Skydaemon, ShiningSword)
Skydaemon - 1 (ddevans96)
But, if he is innocent and so is raving, dragoon and korugar are good suspects(they lay low and attack dema before he attacks them, makes sense)
And i will be watching you( you know who you are), because you are also quiet. I dont like quiet.
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As I understand it, FG's aren't allowed to vote against each other.
They usually do vote eachother, to distract, it is a good tactic. As it would be to say this so nobody suspected of you, isnt that right, sky?
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K I'm changing my vote to 1world because it seems to me that it's win/win. Either he's a civy and all the people who defended him probably are too, or he's an FG and we gain a whole bunch of new targets.
And if he is the doctor, then what? we lose our last power role.

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Re: Elements mafia - 15 - Run by killsdazombies! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20278.msg260870#msg260870
« Reply #187 on: January 30, 2011, 11:42:08 pm »
Quote from: ShiningSword link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20278.msg278690#msg278690 date=1296430682
And i will be watching you( you know who you are), because you are also quiet. I dont like quiet.
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As I understand it, FG's aren't allowed to vote against each other.
They usually do vote eachother, to distract, it is a good tactic. As it would be to say this so nobody suspected of you, isnt that right, sky?
I was under the impression that was implied by this rule:
"NEW RULE: The FGs may not oust eachother under any circumstances. If an FG is found to be doing this, they should be reported to either myself, or the host, and they well be banned from the game, and the following game of Mafia."

Where ousting might mean being part of the gang that votes them out.  (Alternatively it might mean revealing them through speaking, but that wouldn't be terribly useful.)

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Re: Elements mafia - 15 - Run by killsdazombies! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20278.msg260871#msg260871
« Reply #188 on: January 30, 2011, 11:44:09 pm »
[quote author=Skydaemon link=topic=20278.msg278693#msg278693
I was under the impression that was implied by this rule:
"NEW RULE: The FGs may not oust eachother under any circumstances. If an FG is found to be doing this, they should be reported to either myself, or the host, and they well be banned from the game, and the following game of Mafia."
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That more means that they aren't allowed to kill each other.

But it wouldn't be fair to the FGs if they couldn't at least vote for each other. Otherwise, that group of 5 people who voted differently then everyone else looks mighty suspicious...

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Re: Elements mafia - 15 - Run by killsdazombies! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20278.msg260872#msg260872
« Reply #189 on: January 30, 2011, 11:45:23 pm »
Quote from: Demagog link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20278.msg278537#msg278537 date=1296418137
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Umm guys....I was the Village Idiot before, I got traded...Who is the Idiot now?
HAHA! Now you're even more suspicious! The only people that need to know who the village idiot is are the mafia so they don't kill him and waste a turn. Sure, the person could just tell everyone to lynch them to activate their ability, but if the mafia has a tradesman, they just trade him shortly before the day ends and he's no longer the village idiot. Oh, and apparently you are now the tradesman.

You sneaky thing, you.
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Re: Elements mafia - 15 - Run by killsdazombies! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20278.msg260873#msg260873
« Reply #190 on: January 30, 2011, 11:45:41 pm »
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And i will be watching you( you know who you are), because you are also quiet. I dont like quiet.
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As I understand it, FG's aren't allowed to vote against each other.
They usually do vote eachother, to distract, it is a good tactic. As it would be to say this so nobody suspected of you, isnt that right, sky?
I was under the impression that was implied by this rule:
"NEW RULE: The FGs may not oust eachother under any circumstances. If an FG is found to be doing this, they should be reported to either myself, or the host, and they well be banned from the game, and the following game of Mafia."
That rules was made a couple of mafias ago, in which two straight mafias were ruined by a false god leaking information. However, it's not very specific.

Voting for each other, accusing each other, and similar actions are allowed. However, saying 'Me and X are FGs' and throwing the game are not allowed.
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Re: Elements mafia - 15 - Run by killsdazombies! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20278.msg260874#msg260874
« Reply #191 on: January 30, 2011, 11:49:06 pm »
Well, in that case, scratch the stuff about voting for FG's being proof of innocence then.

 

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