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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1155633#msg1155633
« Reply #132 on: September 16, 2014, 03:54:14 am »
I was not expecting it to turn into "join the right alliance or die" so I based my bidding on abilities I felt could gain me early power with strong offense... such as Jenkar... whom I won for a very high bid.  Below are my bids (I submitted a non-zero on almost every Master with only mesaprotector getting a '0') for all to see.
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jmizzle7 = 99.99
Antagon = 676.03
Zeru = [limn→∞(1/n)] + 0.01
Terroking = 199.99
MrBlonde = 676.02
Xinef = [limn→∞(1/n)] + 0.03
xdude = 501.03
icybraker = 501.04
Essence = [limn→∞(1/n)] + 0.05
Gl1tch = 501.05
killsdazombies = [limn→∞(1/n)] + 0.06
girlsgeneration = 299.99
Kael Hate = 200.01
~Napalm = 601.02
Higurashi = 401.02
TheonlyrealBeef = 551.02
QuantumT = 501.02
RavingRabbid = 300.01
10 men = [limn→∞(1/n)] + 0.02
kirchj33 = [limn→∞(1/n)] + 0.04
nilsieboy = 200.02
Jenkar = 701.02
mesaprotector = [limn→∞(1/n)]
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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1155638#msg1155638
« Reply #133 on: September 16, 2014, 07:33:49 am »
My story:
 I wanted :life roles the most, so I voted 1000 for both Gl1tch and Killdazombies roles, so I ended up with KDZ and zero (0) power. However, in the end of the game where I died, I had 3119.93 power.
 I was one of the first allies of Kirchj (WWW), probably the very first. We joined CCCombo's Shadow Master Syndicate together. I knew his ability could be my downfall because it can disable my emerald shield and I could've ordered a mob lynch against him, but I want to be loyal towards my allies and this doesn't change even now. I never targeted kirch or used my emerald shield against him... (foolish ARTH...)
 The only time my path with WWW was seperated was when we joined Crocket's & Naesala's alliance. I knew WWW was exchanging a few PMs with other players, but I hadn't figured he was actually forming a secret alliance with CCCombo, eljoemo and maybe ian; not till he PMed me to vote against Shantu (qwerter). I asked him to reveal his true allies because I couldn't understand why we should lynch mob our own alliance and to explain himself in general.
 Before I was able to figure out what was happening, Shantu (qwerter) was dead. I didn't want to be part of the betrayal against any of my allies, so I explained my true role and power to Nae and that WWW was with CCCombo and maybe a few others (ian, eljo etc.), but, even then, I didn't revealed WWW's ability or power because I am loyal towards all of my allies (foolish ARTH...). Me and Nae concluded we were dead . After that, he just PMed Jawadx to me as their next target (in case I still wanted to work with him) and hadn't sent any other PM since then.
 I was so upset by the recent backstabbing I tried to leave the event by PMing RootRanger about it. However, it was against the rules to leave the event at mid-game (I had to be killed) so I stood idly, targeting random people with both my shield and vote (yes, these random people were CCCombo 60% of time).
 Somehow, despite our alliance being screwed, me and Nae were still alive. Also, I was very lucky and targeted TheElk and Eljoe at the right time to take them down. That meant two things; WWW was either trying to keep me alive because he was still loyal to his original alliance with me or he was abusing the Emerald Shield's existance to survive till the end (after all, he was the only one who was able to take me down without any risk). I hoped it was the first, it proved it was the second.
 Still, I don't understand why he took me down. For a person betraying/backstabbing so many people in the event, he trusted CCCombo's words too much; it would be much more sane to PM me to target CCCombo with my ability, then having CCCombo attack me while claiming he used his ability against me (while he didn't), both voting against CCCombo and having him killed that way. Due to this huge misplay, I think CCCombo is the righful winner of the event; he had no reason to keep his promise, especially towards someone who has broken any vow/promise/alliance he had forged due to the whole event. Why CCCombo was put into the effort to make the biggest traitor of this game at his own expense is beyond my insight...
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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1155651#msg1155651
« Reply #134 on: September 16, 2014, 11:14:32 am »
Well, I definitly didnt know Killsdazombies role worked like that until now. :P As for cccombobreaker letting WWW win, he wanted to show us all hes a good ally, and that hes honest. It speaks volumes for future games then if he won this game.

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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1155654#msg1155654
« Reply #135 on: September 16, 2014, 11:28:29 am »
500 Napalm 400 Shantu, then Xinef, Essence and xdude in some order below 300 bids

qwerter's EOG:

As much as I dislike bring this over and over again, I do remember previous games that actually really involve inside negotiations, and that probably meant F&H and Paradise Lost; the former I never managed to ever win for various reasons (being an arrogant ass, not making alliances, growing too strong etc etc), the latter because I got doublecrossed by AA in some inside alliance.

So anyway, this game was still  very cutthroat. Initially I thought I'll go with Napalms revival, while Shantu was probably the backup. Eventually I got the latter, so my gameplay pretty much swung to "stick to the big alliance as much as possible, and grow powerful enough to exert huge power late-game". Before first round I tried talking to a bunch of people, but eventually I got invited alongside the pact I made with CR and Nae, to join the SLS. So I did. Guranteed safe spot till the top 12-13, why not?

Well after the dissolution I racked probably one of the highest voting power of ~1800 thus far, but I suppose people were already wary of me. Post Shadow the plan was to invite ARTH/WWW3 in, and also create a secondary alliance with ian/Zawadx (sorry guys) as another 3-man alliance which primarily served to just throw in more votes for security - we would have eliminated them anyway. On hindsight maybe ian might have flipped had we actually put in with the 5-man team. Maybe. Apparently WWW3 sold me out and since my power was dangerous obviously I was a first target, and CCC's alliance apparently was bigger, so well, I died. Though I wished someone else in my alliance would have died instead, I think as static as alliance began to form I could have flailed around a bit and try to fit into the big alliance. Maybe. Oh well, only got myself to blame for the way I tried to play.

Grats to WWW3 for this, and grats to CCC, to be honest I didn't expect all of you to be so manipulative ;). With the issue regarding whether CCC should had won, well, I'd say again that probably having people that don't play for the win help you in the final push will help a lot. Finding them and using them to your advantage reduces some bloodshed :)
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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1156159#msg1156159
« Reply #136 on: September 19, 2014, 09:53:05 pm »
Points now added to Master of Games standings. :)

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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1156164#msg1156164
« Reply #137 on: September 19, 2014, 10:05:32 pm »
Also, here is the Grandmaster Spreadsheet. This contains every vote and ability used over the course of the game.
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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1156293#msg1156293
« Reply #138 on: September 20, 2014, 01:14:14 pm »
Keal hate + jenkar is an amazing combo. Jenkar doesnt have to worry about the -100 permanently since he can target the person he's going to lynch, then keal hate can steal that person's power. Keal hate + anyone though EoR is a guarantee to have more power then the target. I think keal hate is a bit OP. Should be steal their power - 1/3 of whatever it is.
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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1156303#msg1156303
« Reply #139 on: September 20, 2014, 02:06:24 pm »
I made no bids and I got xdude. Lucky me :)

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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1156333#msg1156333
« Reply #140 on: September 20, 2014, 07:41:03 pm »
Lock topic?
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