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Title: Laying Down the Law on Lazies
Post by: BeefSupreme on May 02, 2013, 08:27:19 am
This was a silly thread.
Title: Re: Laying Down the Law on Lazies
Post by: Naesala on May 02, 2013, 08:52:31 am
Would it be possible to have a warning for the "Read this First!" threads similar to necro warning? I think the main problem is some people may not even notice the Read this First! threads. It isn't that they aren't noticeable, but perhaps the eyes just glance over the page.

I feel it's just slightly too severe as is. It might scare off newbies knowing they were put on a watch list just for some small error. Voted for "Maybe with some adjustments."
Title: Re: Laying Down the Law on Lazies
Post by: Calindu on May 02, 2013, 09:57:24 am
I find this funny, because this is posted in the wrong section.
This (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,7.0.html) is the right section.
Title: Re: Laying Down the Law on Lazies
Post by: Marsu on May 02, 2013, 03:42:05 pm
^This.
Also, no.
Also, nerf Dim Shield.
Title: Re: Laying Down the Law on Lazies
Post by: Elbirn on May 02, 2013, 06:01:43 pm
Better idea, I have no idea how to implement it or if it'd be possible, but maaybe one could make it so that you cannot post in a board until you read the "Read this first" stickies.

Noob A Joins the forum and heads straight for the Nerf/Buff board, because he thinks he's sooo right in believing that dim shield needs a nerf. After all, it made him lose, and losing is impossible because he's the besterest! Therefore, it must be unfair and broken.

So Noob A goes to post a topic, only to get a pop-up: "You cannot start a new thread in this board until you read all threads titled "Read this first!"

"Huh? Oh...There's a sticky up there, didn't notice. Let's read it."

Noob A proceeds to read the rules of the Nerf/Buff section. He learns that he should only start topics for cards that don't already have a thread, and realizes there are many threads already for dim shield. Opening the longest and oldest one, he reads through many people's arguments and decides that maybe he's wrong. He see's many people discussing balancing and game theory and learns a great deal of what makes a card broken. Good for Noob A!

Several days later, Noob A decides that Shard of Focus is broken, because it is. For some reason we live in a parallel universe wherein no one else thinks so, and thus no one else has ever made a thread for SoFo. So he starts his own. Thanks to his reading of the sticky and his previous explorations of the board, he knows how to make a professional, clean, easy to read thread that clearly illustrates his ideas and get's his points across. He also now knows what makes a card balanced/unbalanced. He writes a brilliant, beautifully written thread that covers all arguments. Everyone realizes that SoFo is broken, breaks into Zanz house, and hold him at gunpoint until he nerfs the Bejebuz out of SoFo, bringing forth a golden age of Elements. Attaboy, Noob A!
Title: Re: Laying Down the Law on Lazies
Post by: furballdn on May 03, 2013, 01:36:46 am
Better idea, I have no idea how to implement it or if it'd be possible, but maaybe one could make it so that you cannot post in a board until you read the "Read this first" stickies.
Define read. Doing that will probably have as much effect as the "I have read and accepted the terms and conditions" checkbox.
Title: Re: Laying Down the Law on Lazies
Post by: BeefSupreme on May 03, 2013, 10:27:08 pm
Better idea, I have no idea how to implement it or if it'd be possible, but maaybe one could make it so that you cannot post in a board until you read the "Read this first" stickies.
Define read. Doing that will probably have as much effect as the "I have read and accepted the terms and conditions" checkbox.
This. As far as I can remember, I know that I do that myself when I'm feeling lazy.
Title: Re: Laying Down the Law on Lazies
Post by: andretimpa on May 03, 2013, 11:48:07 pm
How about using Elbirn's idea, but with the following warning.

"Please read the 'Read this First' post before posting a new topic. BREAKING THE RULES WILL LEAD TO YOU BEING PUNISHED."

If the noob insists in "reading the post" and make a horrible thread, then I say this should be a minor infraction.
Title: Re: Laying Down the Law on Lazies
Post by: BeefSupreme on May 03, 2013, 11:54:09 pm
How about using Elbirn's idea, but with the following warning.

"Please read the 'Read this First' post before posting a new topic. BREAKING THE RULES WILL LEAD TO YOU BEING PUNISHED."

If the noob insists in "reading the post" and make a horrible thread, then I say this should be a minor infraction.
I really like this idea. My idea was too harsh and his too lenient, but together they make a very solid system.
Title: Re: Laying Down the Law on Lazies
Post by: eaglgenes101 on May 04, 2013, 12:19:59 am
How about a minimum post count to submit a thread in these sections? A newbie who wanted to submit a thread there would have to do it via mod.
Title: Re: Laying Down the Law on Lazies
Post by: BeefSupreme on May 04, 2013, 12:52:27 am
How about a minimum post count to submit a thread in these sections? A newbie who wanted to submit a thread there would have to do it via mod.
There are some intelligent noobs that can read the Read First threads; it's just the few (meaning a lot) bad eggs that post stupid stuff.
Title: Re: Laying Down the Law on Lazies
Post by: eaglgenes101 on May 04, 2013, 12:53:49 am
How about a minimum post count to submit a thread in these sections? A newbie who wanted to submit a thread there would have to do it via mod.
There are some intelligent noobs that can read the Read First threads; it's just the few (meaning a lot) bad eggs that post stupid stuff.
Which is why the through-a-mod pathway is available.
Title: Re: Laying Down the Law on Lazies
Post by: BunKeR on May 04, 2013, 12:59:39 am

I lurked forever and eventually started posting. When I finaly did post I tried to make it in the spirit and in accordance with board .

This system of having to read the "read first" stuffs makes perfect sense to me and I agree 100% that  those should be read (obviously) .
Title: Re: Laying Down the Law on Lazies
Post by: Naesala on May 04, 2013, 02:32:36 am
How about using Elbirn's idea, but with the following warning.

"Please read the 'Read this First' post before posting a new topic. BREAKING THE RULES WILL LEAD TO YOU BEING PUNISHED."

If the noob insists in "reading the post" and make a horrible thread, then I say this should be a minor infraction.

Sounds like a great idea to me.
Title: Re: Laying Down the Law on Lazies
Post by: Elbirn on May 04, 2013, 03:44:47 am
While we're discussing this, I kinda feel like that board is due for a touchup anyhow; the rules thread seems awfully outdated, and the board doesn't seem to be very moderated. It'd be nice to set some kinda of mandatory standards for posts, keep one thread per card (I.E. merge or close all threads with the same card being discussed), etc.
Title: Re: Laying Down the Law on Lazies
Post by: BeefSupreme on May 04, 2013, 05:56:02 am
While we're discussing this, I kinda feel like that board is due for a touchup anyhow; the rules thread seems awfully outdated, and the board doesn't seem to be very moderated. It'd be nice to set some kinda of mandatory standards for posts, keep one thread per card (I.E. merge or close all threads with the same card being discussed), etc.
Yeah.. The forums themselves just kind of need to have a complete sweep of updates.
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