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justified rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24405.msg311296#msg311296
« on: April 13, 2011, 09:54:34 pm »
I am becoming annoyed a random people giving my topics a 1 star. this is because i believe that the only reasons you should give a topic one star is if
1. it is truly, horribly, bad, and deserves to be removed.
2. you are trying to lower a rating perceived much higher than it needs to me, like if a only moderately good topic is rated 5 stars, and you think it should be rated only at three, so you vote at one to bring down the average.
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Re: justified rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24405.msg311298#msg311298
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2011, 09:59:55 pm »
I agree. Spamming the ratings at 1 is annoying. If you think it deserves a 3 and it has a 5 that does not mean rate 1. The rating system is so that the community as a whole shows thier opinion. You dont rate it worse cause you dont like the rating. On the other hand you shouldnt rate your topics a 5 just because you created them. Not saying you do this, just pointing it out.
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Re: justified rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24405.msg311311#msg311311
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2011, 10:12:10 pm »
I agree. Spamming the ratings at 1 is annoying. If you think it deserves a 3 and it has a 5 that does not mean rate 1. The rating system is so that the community as a whole shows thier opinion. You dont rate it worse cause you dont like the rating. On the other hand you shouldnt rate your topics a 5 just because you created them. Not saying you do this, just pointing it out.
I agree as well. I personally think that your should have an option to disable ratings on your thread if you want to if you want a more unbiased opinion - ratings are almost like polls in which people give you a quick opinion but don't exactly say why.

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Re: justified rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24405.msg311317#msg311317
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2011, 10:16:24 pm »
[...] On the other hand you shouldnt rate your topics a 5 just because you created them.
You can't rate your own topic.
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Re: justified rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24405.msg311328#msg311328
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2011, 10:38:19 pm »
The current rating is rarely going to be what you want. If you think it deserves a higher rating, then you can vote 5. If you think t deserves a lower rating, you can vote 1. Voting 1 or 5 are usually the options that cause the new rating to be as close to what you want as possible. If the community frowns upon votes of 1, then the voting would be inflated for no reason.

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Most people will vote 1 or 5, and that's not a problem.
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Re: justified rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24405.msg311330#msg311330
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2011, 10:42:16 pm »
But its not how its meant to be used. IT is meant to be used to rate it how you think it should be. If it currently has 5 stars, and you think it should have 3 you are NOT suppose to rate 1 to try to even it out. You are suppose to rate 3 because thats your view. You are not suppose to vote to change the avg, you are suppose to vote to what you think and let it reflect the average accordingly, otherwise the system is worthless
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Re: justified rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24405.msg311336#msg311336
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2011, 11:01:07 pm »
I'm with BP on this one.

Generally I reserve a 5 rating for something that offers a lot of benefit to a lot of the community (i.e. Jmdt's ttw study) and a 1 for something that's either broadly offensive or otherwise should not have been posted.

However, I haven't seen any guidlines anywhere as to how we're supposed to use the rating system, so I guess it's largely up to the individual.

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Re: justified rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24405.msg311343#msg311343
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2011, 11:13:43 pm »
I'm with BP on this one.

Generally I reserve a 5 rating for something that offers a lot of benefit to a lot of the community (i.e. Jmdt's ttw study) and a 1 for something that's either broadly offensive or otherwise should not have been posted.

However, I haven't seen any guidlines anywhere as to how we're supposed to use the rating system, so I guess it's largely up to the individual.
As a general rule, rating systems should only be used to rate your opinion of the game. Not a weighted opinion (aka it has a 1 you think it deserves a 3, and so you  give a 5) as this doesnt truely show the community view of the topic.

For ex

A game has (5) 1 star ratings and nothing else. Avg Score=1 Star
I think the people are too harsh, and while my opinion is only that it deserves 3 stars, I give it 5.
That means the game now has  (5) 1 star ratings and (1) 5 star rating. Avg Score=1.666 Star
Meanwhile, you should give it 3 stars since thats what you think it deserves.
That would mean it has (5) 1 star ratings and (1) 3 star rating. Avg Score=1.333


the goal of the ating system is to see what the community as a whole (or at least those that rated it) thinks of the topic. If you give a higher than what you think opinion, then the true rating of a topic isnt really known.

Guidelines like these should be made.
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Re: justified rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24405.msg311358#msg311358
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2011, 11:20:40 pm »
I think a way to fix the voting 5 or 1 option is to only count the 5 rating or the 1 rating after the topic is rated 1 or 5 atleast3 times.
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Re: justified rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24405.msg311359#msg311359
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2011, 11:23:10 pm »
I think a way to fix the voting 5 or 1 option is to only count the 5 rating or the 1 rating after the topic is rated 1 or 5 atleast3 times.
I still think that disabling the ratings is a possible option if you want more detailed input in the form of polls or comments.

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Re: justified rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24405.msg311380#msg311380
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2011, 11:45:26 pm »
But its not how its meant to be used. IT is meant to be used to rate it how you think it should be. If it currently has 5 stars, and you think it should have 3 you are NOT suppose to rate 1 to try to even it out. You are suppose to rate 3 because thats your view. You are not suppose to vote to change the avg, you are suppose to vote to what you think and let it reflect the average accordingly, otherwise the system is worthless
In theory, yes, that would be the best way to do it. But is this ever going to happen?
It's normal for people to want their opinion to have more weight than the next person, even if there are voting guidelines. If there were voting guidelines, the votes of the people who did not follow those guidelines would have more weight than the votes of the people who did.
Thus, I think people should be encouraged to vote what brings the rating closer to their own percieved ratings (ie they usually vote 1 or 5). This way, everyone's opinion has the same weight.
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Re: justified rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24405.msg311390#msg311390
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2011, 11:54:02 pm »
I don't think topics that exist just to complain should be given high ratings ::). Also, why have rage at some ignorant *cough* really annoying *cough* people giving out bad ratings for no reason? They are just ratings. No one pays them any attention.

 

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